Arab uprising exposes Britain’s naval weakness

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Arab uprising exposes Britain’s naval weakness - Telegraph

David Cameron’s unexpected visit to Cairo yesterday was an important gesture of support to Egypt’s democracy movement. Calling for “reform not repression” across the region, the Prime Minister argued that a more democratic Middle East is in Britain’s strategic and economic interests. Indeed it is, but achieving that desirable goal may yet prove elusive. The military that now governs Egypt has promised free elections and we must hope they are true to their word. Given that this will mean relinquishing the power they have wielded for the past 50 years, such an outcome cannot be guaranteed.

While the Arab uprising is proving remarkably adept at toppling dictators, what will take their place is impossible to predict. Those who characterise the protests as popular, secular movements untainted by the forces of extreme Islamism may yet be disappointed. It could well be that only such hard-line groups have the organisation and ideological commitment to impose any sense of direction on the popular unrest in the longer term. It is this volatility that should make the West wary; we are in unknown territory where anything could happen. This is what Lord West of Spithead, the former First Sea Lord, describes in the letter alongside as “strategic shock”.
 

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Moonshine of course. Egypt has no history of democracy and Arabs don't understand it anyway since it is based on concepts of individual equality that are totally lacking from their mediaeval culture set. All Dave is trying to do is to get the inheritors of Mubarak's regime to forget how we went along with Mubarak all those years. If indeed the average Egyptian thinks of Britain in any sort of political terms at all.

Oh and perhaps Dave was trying to get there before Tone arrives to spread a bit of his Middle East 'Peace'. Or perhaps just doing his Blair Lite bit. Totally meaningless trip anyway.
 
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Moonshine of course. Egypt has no history of democracy and Arabs don't understand it anyway since it is based on concepts of individual equality that are totally lacking from their mediaeval culture set. All Dave is trying to do is to get the inheritors of Mubarak's regime to forget how we went along with Mubarak all those years. If indeed the average Egyptian thinks of Britain in any sort of political terms at all.

Oh and perhaps Dave was trying to get there before Tone arrives to spread a bit of his Middle East 'Peace'. Or perhaps just doing his Blair Lite bit. Totally meaningless trip anyway.
I rather suspect that both Mr Cameron and Mr Blair both have timeshares holiday accommodation there....must protect ones assets.
 
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Moonshine of course. Egypt has no history of democracy and Arabs don't understand it anyway since it is based on concepts of individual equality that are totally lacking from their mediaeval culture set. All Dave is trying to do is to get the inheritors of Mubarak's regime to forget how we went along with Mubarak all those years. If indeed the average Egyptian thinks of Britain in any sort of political terms at all.

Oh and perhaps Dave was trying to get there before Tone arrives to spread a bit of his Middle East 'Peace'. Or perhaps just doing his Blair Lite bit. Totally meaningless trip anyway.
A far from meaningless trip (IMHO) - getting in early with a strong show of support at the highest level is a very important gesture (admittedly not much more than a gesture but important in the political context) and it demonstrates that there is at least one Western bloc that believes in the furtherence of the democratic process. It really is not very important what has gone before, but it is very important what goes on from here..
 
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As always the odd comment under the article is itself worth comment. "Risk manager" says that the reporter must do more research whilst obviously having no idea how a NEO would be planned and executed, the assets best suited and of course the difficulties of operating large civilian aircraft in a hostile environment!!

IMD
 
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Dis-connect between thread title and post.

By the way - aircraft are getting in and out of Libya according to media reports... or is the thrust of the thread that a stronger RN would have been able to stop the riff-raff overpowering their benevolent rulers in North Africa? Confused.com
 
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Where is the 'Naval Weakness' connotation the subject heading is on about ?
Well we're losing our surface ships, at least those with the capability of providing air cover and an amphibious landing platform.
I suppose we could always send the Pongos in a train.
Imagine the Middle East with 10 Irans and 10 HadyerdinnerDads - they could cripple the West by cutting off the oil and redirecting it to China and Russia, who could provide some seriously nasty hardware to a bunch of religious fanatics who would be willing to use it.
Then the other religious fanatics (based in the Pentagon) could do their 'God's work' and respond.

Happy days
 
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