Apprentice Chef work pattern

Kham

Newbie
I'm thinking about joing the rfa as an apprentice Chef but I'm just curious about the work and shift patterns from day to day. Is there much down time or days off or is it just work work work for 4 months?

If there is downtime how can you fill it?

I've read that some roles follow a typical civilian working day i.e. 8 till 5/6 but obviously food prep and service would overlap each end of these times so does it make it a longer working day. As much info as possible would help me make the next steps so thanks in advance.
 

Travel Bug

Midshipman
I imagine they would do it so you do morning to lunch then rest of the day off. Or morning of then lunch to evening working.
 

dapperdunn

War Hero
Book Reviewer
When I worked on Dil, You worked every meal and had one evening meal off a week. Not sure what other ships work.
Top tip. don't listen to people guessing. (Or imagining)
 

Kham

Newbie
Yup, and thats what attracted me to it in the first place, but thats a long way down the line with no guarantee that they will keep you on anyway. I have a fairly young family youngest being 11 years old so the work to pay ratio along with the amount leave is a vital decision. The pay wouldnt be a great move to me with the time away and the limited time with family during this first couple of years so the working week patterns would need to be barable.
 
As with all staff you have contracted weekly hours (39? I think) and onboard your line manager is expected to manage you within those hours. Apprentices have slightly different contracts and I'm sure one of them will give you the up-to-date information or trawl some of the other apprentice threads for that specific info.

Working hours is a bone of contention in the Chef cadre at the moment as there is a set of hours as you allude to, there is union meetings and all sorts going on to try and resolve this.

Generally start at 6ish, knock off around 12.30 until 3.30pm. Final service is at 6.15 so finish around 7 once Galley is cleaned. There is limited staff, however, Chief Cook will try to stagger starts and finishes as much as possible to keep working hours in check. Weekends at sea, same as weekdays. Weekend in port generally it is permitted to have a buffet dinner so only one chef on duty to put that out. Work hours is flexible. Unlike hotels/restaurants that work a fixed service, operational requirements can mean staff working late into the evening/night or early starts so early breakfasts and late dinners can happen.

Be assured that we are a militant bunch at the best of times and love to bitch about how easy every other department gets it - no-one wants to be flogged at work! Efforts are always made to make things as bearable as possible. It sounds a lot more terrible that it is tbh. I always think when you are at sea its all moot, working or not, you are still not with your family!

Time off: As an apprentice you will likely share a cabin - although they are reasonably sized it's no picnic, but you should have a TV. There are TVs in the bar also. Most people watch films and box sets on their laptops or bring games consoles. There is usually a small contingent who decorate the bar of an evening. When in port you can wander ashore on your time off. Most never make it past the first pub...
 

Kham

Newbie
Great info thanks! That sounds more like a normal working week with scope for play time inbetween.
 
Back off Seadog! If I ever did see my contract of employment (HA!) I'd know what hours I'm "contracted" to. There are hours of work in BR875 and if I could be bothered to dig it out an add it up I would quote that, but I can't, so I won't. The point is, however, that there are subscribed hours of work, laid down in policy and that is the only reason ChOff bangs on to LMs and HODs about "managing their departments time appropriately and within reason" when asking the lads to do yet another RAS until 11pm.


Its just not full on graft like you lads.
Pfft! Haha
 

Megalopteron

Lantern Swinger
If I ever did see my contract of employment (HA!) I'd know what hours I'm "contracted" to.
2880+/-

Didn't you sign a CSC? It is unlikely to have mentioned hours of work.

875 lays down a standard working pattern but doesn't limit your hours. There are no "contracted" hours in the sense of a conventional job.
 

Seadog

War Hero
Moderator
IIRC the Maritime Labour Convention applies here. One interpretation may be : if you want to work Monday -Friday 9 - 5, don't work at sea, don't get three months off for every 4 months of hard, antisocial graft. Some said as much earlier in the post.
 
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