Application Denied Under Medical Grounds

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  1. Hello, I applied to the Royal Navy as a Seaman Specialist at the beginning of last year.
    I progressed onto my medical test and because I wet the bed at the age of 13 for reasons unknown, they denied me entry. I am 19 now so the bed wetting was almost 7 year's ago. Of course with this being such a poor reason to deny me, it angered me quite a lot as I have wanted to join the Navy for a while now. And so forth I have been going through a bundle of tests at the hospital to prove that I am a perfectly healthy bloke with nothing wrong with me OR my internal organs.

    I am yet to speak to my doctor of a way to prove I'm not mentally ill or depressed as it's the last possible reason of bed wetting for me to rule out. Even the Urologist who did my ultrasound on my bladder and kidneys was as puzzled as a camel in the arctic.

    Anyway, I am posting to ask for your experienced opinions as to what to expect when I make a appeal or simply just your opinion of my situation as I am curious as to what others may think about it.

    Information provided about appeal processes will also be appreciated very much
  2. exJenny

    exJenny War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

  3. exJenny

    exJenny War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Obviously it could be complete coincidence and just an affliction of Jakes.
  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

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  5. Hello exJenny.

    I have never given thought to joining the Marines mostly because I doubt I would be at a high enough level of fitness.
  6. Hello Ninja_Stroker.

    Actually I suffered from Asthma as a child, until the age of 9/10 at which time I was taken off of the inhaler. Ever since then, I haven't suffered from the affliction.

    May I please ask; why do you and exJenny seem to think I am interested in the Royal Marines?
  7. exJenny

    exJenny War Hero Moderator Book Reviewer

    Read the link I posted and then the links within the link...
  8. He'll be back in a minute ExJ, he's having a coughing fit after inhaling ammonia fumes from a damp mattress.
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  9. If your condition - bed wetting was confirmed at the age of 13, then it won't really matter which consultant Urologist, Neurologist, Psychologist, Physician, Psychiatrist or GP syas you are 'over it'. Rules are the rules - this was a problem beyond your formative years and may be again if exposed to unusual, or stressful situations.

    Harsh, but that is the way it is.

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  10. I don't see the problem. Half the people I served with would swamp on a nightly basis, you'd even get the occasional grand slam for good measure.

    This is what most people's mattresses look like after a 6 month deployment.

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  11. Bloody hell! The Turin Mattress?
  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    I think the difference is an alcohol-induced piss artist creating a mappa mundi is a bit different to a person bed wetting due to mental health issues.

    It's not the mattress the service is concerned about, it's the underlying cause when it occurs and for how long it affected the individual.
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  13. janner

    janner War Hero Book Reviewer

    --Or more to the point the under lying bloke!
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  14. Thank you for the replies everyone.

    Hello Nemesis1066, thank you for your reply. I would firstly like to mention that I have never been diagnosed with any condition other than asthma as a child, which has long since passed. The doctor that saw me for my medical test informed me that my history of asthma would not affect my application as long as it was over 4 or 5 year's ago if I remember correctly.
    It would be logical to assume that there are these time periods for a number of medical conditions people have suffered with in their past, where as long as it has been a set number of years since, it would not affect the application.

    In the letter that I was sent informing me of the decision, it said that if I can rule out all Urological, Neurological and Psychological abnormalities by providing medical and clinical evidence of such, I may appeal the decision or just re apply once the evidence has been collected.

    Again, thank you for your opinions and please, feel free to continue posting. All are appreciated!
  15. Patrick a.k.a. Swampy, had a similar problem IIRC, he got in.
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  16. Hi,

    I'm 16 and I applied to join the Royal Navy as a Warfare Specialist. I had my medical a few days ago and I got failed due to apparent eczema on my left arm (can't upload as file size is too big?). I have had bad eczema 4 or 5 years ago I but have had no signs of any since then. My skin is just naturally slightly more dry than most others and scarred slightly from eczema in the past but certainly no eczema.

    I have been told that I must get rid of it and then I can reapply after a three year period of having no eczema. I don't think the Doctor knew much about eczema and she didn't even have a close look at what she thought was some.

    Do you think I should appeal this? What happens in an appeal? What do you think the likelihood is of this decision being reversed? Any other advice or comments would be greatly appreciated!


    Seb Cook
  17. Afternoon,

    If you appeal it must be on the grounds that the decision is incorrect, or that you have not had the condition. In your case it will have to be that the decision is wrong, which is not the easiest thing to acheive.
    You will have to obtain unrefutable medical proof that your last episode was when it states it was in your medical records, including prescriptions for creams, lotions and potions. If you have had a prescription within the last 3 years, then you have no appeal.
    You will need the help of your GP, but you should be able to get access to your records.
    Speak to your AFCO about the appeals process you will need to follow.
    Good luck.
  18. Hi,

    Thanks for your quick and helpful response! Indeed my last prescription must have been at least 4 years ago so I will get my doctor to verify and support that. I have booked an appointment with my GP on Tuesday so I should be able to get all the necessary evidence then. The service doctor failed me as she thought she saw a slight patch on my left arm during the medical; if I can get my GP to verify there is infact no eczema there, what will happen next? Will another service doctor reexamine me or something?

    I have emailed my local AFCO today regarding the appeals process.

    Thanks for everything and the good luck!:)

  19. No problem.
    Basically collect all of the information, then you will need to write a letter of appeal - your AFCO will be able to help with this.
    Your problem is the patch you mention. If it is deemed to be active eczema, then the appeal will be declined and the original decision upheld.
    The reason for the treating eczema so, is due to the oils, greases, paints and other chemicals you will come into contact with in the Service, all of which will make a slight condition worse.
    Take the advice the AFCO CAs give you, and take it from there.

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