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All arms commando course.

daz2162

Badgeman
Hi guys, just interested whether anybody on here has done or is interested in doing the all arms commando course??

Cheers
Daz2162
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Yep. All those who cannot meet the entry standard for Royal Marine will invariably ask if they were to join the Navy, Army or Airforce and suddenly wake-up fit one day: "Can I do All Arms?".
 

daz2162

Badgeman
Haha fair point, surely being military fit will be far fitter than before, so its an option for when you're in?
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
The only assured way of becoming a Commando is by joining as a Royal Marine and by having the motivation to adequately prepare. The average person coming out of initial Naval training is unlikely to meet the entry standards for Royal Marines by being fit enough to pass PRMC.

In fact, RN Divers who have passed PDA will probably find their fitness levels have significantly fallen after completing training at Raleigh. Most Diver recruits need to do additional phys in their own time in order to adequately prepare themselves to undergo the rigours of Diver training.
 

daz2162

Badgeman
Sorry for being dim........ Stc??

That's very true, I'll enquire more once im in, just want to know my options is all.
 

tommo

War Hero
You'll only really go on an All Arms Commando Course, if you're billet (job) /draft you are going to or in requires it. For example 148 Battery requires it.

I very much doubt if you join as an example a Stoker and fancy doing it that you will do it.

You could transfer to RM after you join up if you get the manpower clearance to transfer, but then why don't you try joining up as a RM first of all
 

daz2162

Badgeman
Ah i see, is it a request and short list kind of thing or passed on by superiors (depending on need of service)??
 

tommo

War Hero
Branch transfer is a request and the needs of the service comes in.

AACC is a requirement of the service for that draft normally
 

daz2162

Badgeman
Well the AACC is there for the tri service to do so i will if i can, cant really answer your question im not david cameron. Haha
 

ElQuesoGrande

Lantern Swinger
It's not there for you 'to do', it's there to commando train personnel drafted to 3 CDO BDE. From the RN ratings side that means mainly communicators and medics. It's not a jolly course you can just do because you want to. You have to be assigned for the role in 3 CDO BDE.

It's also pretty damn hard, and harder for matelots than pongos as we generally lack the green military skills that you're expected to know week 1 day 1.

I've spent time being beasted for a week or two at CTCRM Lympstone on another course, and I can tell you the bottom field is no fun at all.

In short, as a matelot the branch to go for with the highest hands of securing a place on AACC (eventually) is MA. A warfare specialist has little to no chance.
 

tommo

War Hero
Unless he goes for 148 Battery WS can if they get clearance


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ElQuesoGrande

Lantern Swinger
I stand corrected.

Why doesn't he apply for SF? (SAS, SBS OR SRR)... Apparently at my last DO's refresher course I was told that all RN aspirants for SF selection were to be given places on AACC.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
I stand corrected.

Why doesn't he apply for SF? (SAS, SBS OR SRR)... Apparently at my last DO's refresher course I was told that all RN aspirants for SF selection were to be given places on AACC.
Yep, that's the usual routine as matelots will have acquired no currency in fieldcraft skills.

Truth is, although we see MAs & other branches undertake AACC when working within 3 Cdo, it is not a mandatory requirement, nor essential - as demonstrated by MA Kate Nesbitt MC.

For those interested, the RMFA, which forms day one of PRMC, includes the following criteria tests:
3 mile run, 22.5 minutes
VO2 Max, (Bleep Test), minimum Level 11
60-80 sit-ups in 2 mins (to a bleep)
40-60 close-arm press-ups in 2 mins (to a bleep)
8-16 back-handed pull-ups in 2 mins (to a bleep)
100 metre swim.

As stated, the physical fitness entry standard for Royal Marines is significantly higher than the physical fitness pass out standard required at Raleigh.
 

hammers

Lantern Swinger
What branch are you? Or do you aspire to join?

As others have mentioned previously it's only comms and the odd dabber for 148 battery and MA's who work with the Royals.

A good chance to get your green lid if you go wafu and get drafted to CHELFOR
 

slim

War Hero
When I was on the Eagle my mess had to muster in the sickbay for a Short Arm Inspection. Something to do with the crabs I believe
 
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