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Aircraft Controller Branch - Direct Entry Ratings.

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
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It has been decided that with immediate effect, streaming into AC branches will occur prior to entry rather than in-Service sideways entrants.

In addition to the requirement for GCSE Maths & English, the Recruiting Test scores required are amongst the highest for ratings entry into the RN & the selction process is more tortuous than most trades.

The Air Traffic Controller element of the Flying Aptitude Tests process will be used to identify the required quality of recruits, prior to commencement of Aircraft Controller training.

It is planned that HMS RALEIGH will begin training the new AC ratings commencing around Oct 08.

RECRUITING CATEGORIES AND ENTRY PATTERN

With immediate effect, recruiting to the AC branch is to commence.

ELIGIBLITY AND ENTRY CRITERIA

a. Nationality: Full British or British/Dual
b. Gender: Male and Female.
c. Educational Qualifications (min): 2 GCSEs (Eng and Maths) (Grade C or above)
d. ATC Flying Aptitude Test standard achieved
e. ATC Medical Standard achieved
f. Eyesight: Visual Acuity : 3, Colour Preception : 3,
g. Age: 16 (on entry) to 36 (including 37 birthday).
h Minimum Height: 151.5cm

The Royal Navy website is expected to be updated by August or as soon as possible.

FLYING APTITUDE TEST

The Flying Aptitude Tests (FATs) take place at the Officer & Aircrew Selection Centre (OASC) at RAF Cranwell with Royal Navy tests occurring on Mon/Tues.

MEDICAL

All ACs must complete an initial Air Traffic Control medical. This is in two parts. An initial medical questionnaire will be issued. The questionnaire will be screened and, provided that it does not indicate any potential problems, provisional clearance will be issued to the AFCO;

On successful completion of FATs, arrangements for the physical examination will be conducted.

PROCESS

The process from Selection Interview is as follows:
Candidate passes Selection Interview
AFCO will issue AC candidates with Officers’ Medical Questionnaire
Candidate returns questionnaire
Questionnaire screened. If acceptable, provisional pass issued to AFCO
AFCO books place on FATs
Candidate attends Cranwell & completes FATs.
If successful, ATC medical wbooked in HMS
Final pass/fail awarded. AFCO informed
Candidate completes PJFT & continues with process to entry at Raleigh


AC BRANCH OVERVIEW OF CAREER AND TRAINING

As an AC you will be right at the core of flying operations both on ships at sea and on Royal Naval Air Stations ashore. The Fleet Air Arm provides the Royal Navy with a unique multi-role airborne capability that can operate at short notice, in all environments, day and night, over land and sea. Its work includes combat, submarine hunting, anti-smuggling and anti-terrorism missions; transporting troops and equipment, undertaking reconnaissance, assisting in the medical evacuation of patients, and providing crucial aid in humanitarian relief efforts. You will be trained to the highest possible standards to provide tactical control, Air Traffic Control Safety Services, mission planning and command aviation advice to the aircrew and Command Team to allow them to carry out day-to-day flying operations safely, expeditiously and effectively.

Promotion.

There are excellent promotion opportunities for all ACs and due to the training and nature of the job can be swifter than some other branches. With training and experience, you could be promoted to the rate of Leading Hand, and then Petty Officer, Chief Petty Officer and ultimately, Warrant Officer 1. To qualify for promotion you have to be selected at a promotion board.

Transferring Your Skills.

During your time in the Royal Navy, you will have the opportunity to gain all kinds of skills, from the technical know-how to do your job, to personal qualities like teamwork, problem solving, self-confidence and leadership. Plus many of the qualification you get in the Royal Navy are recognised and valued externally.

You will also be able to earn Marine Safety Agency Certificates in Firefighting, First Aid, Sea Survival, Personal Safety and Social Responsibilities.

PROFESSIONAL TRAINING

After basic Phase 1 training, you will then attend the AC Specialisation Grading Course (ACGC) for 1 week. The next stage would be the 5 week Naval Air Traffic Assistants Course (NATAC) followed by 12 months of Consolidation Training at a Typed Air Station as an ATC Assistant in the rate of NA2(AC).

Now professionally trained you will attend the Helicopter Controller Non-tactical (HCNT) course and the Warfare Specialist Course in order to qualify and prepare you for a 12 month period on board a Frigate or Destroyer as the ships controller.

On-The-Job-Training. During this 12 month period, you will be providing an Air Traffic Control Service to different types of helicopters and consolidating all your previous training. Once you have gained this valuable experience you will be trained in the warfare roles and tactics of all NATO Maritime aircraft and promoted to Leading Aircraft Controller. This promotion to Leading Hand is one of the fastest in the Royal Navy and demonstrates the early responsibility you will be given
 

avoiding_action

Lantern Swinger
This is a great opportunity for those switched on guys that don't have the educational qualifications for Officer yet don't want to go in as a 'ordinary rating'. Advance to Leading Hand quickly and excellent prospects for UY and SUY!
 
And us Chocheads were not switched on eh? But then it was only an adqual.

To be serious, it it is no different to the RAF system, to say that promotion is swift is not true, now i may be wrong, but you used to have been a Sergeant for three years before you got the Joint Air Traffic Control Course at RAF Shawbury, then IF you got your licence you became a Flight Sergeant, From friends that i have in RAF, they tell me that nothing has changed except for the radar course.

So who is going to train them?
 

Ships_Cat

War Hero
Does that mean they will get entry to the super secret AC thread before even going to Raleigh, so they can ask all the grip/iron/haircut/medical questions in there, hidden from us mere oiks?? NZB and Higs will be overjoyed...
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Ships_Cat said:
Does that mean they will get entry to the super secret AC thread before even going to Raleigh, so they can ask all the grip/iron/haircut/medical questions in there, hidden from us mere oiks??

Spot on!

That's the reason I started the thread as I was hoping we could have a secret T22 After Engine Room part of ship forum too, affiliated to the Ship's Painter forum.
 
Perhaps if we all had our own private forum then there would be no requirement for name calling or moderation, and everything under the sun could be discussed, between ourselves. :w00t:
 
higthepig said:
And us Chocheads were not switched on eh? But then it was only an adqual.

To be serious, it it is no different to the RAF system, to say that promotion is swift is not true, now i may be wrong, but you used to have been a Sergeant for three years before you got the Joint Air Traffic Control Course at RAF Shawbury, then IF you got your licence you became a Flight Sergeant, From friends that i have in RAF, they tell me that nothing has changed except for the radar course.

So who is going to train them?

Promotion is swift. There are lads and lasses who have around 6 years service now eligible for promotion to P.O. Good quality people too. To say it is the same as the RAF is utter tripe. The RN AC's control at AB level, the RAF are lucky to maybe act as ground controller at Corporal after around 8 years service. RN AC's are also trained in a much wider variety of skills than our crab counterparts by Navy personnel at the Royal Naval School of Aircraft Control at Yeovilton and MWS. It is only JATCC that is held at RAF Shawbury. It is without doubt a great opportunity for someone considering a career in the RN. Not so sure about the GCSE requirements though. Some of the better controllers can be considered "NAMETS".

As for the AC's forum, that died a death a while ago.
 

slim

War Hero
Montigny_La_Palisse said:
higthepig said:
And us Chocheads were not switched on eh? But then it was only an adqual.

To be serious, it it is no different to the RAF system, to say that promotion is swift is not true, now i may be wrong, but you used to have been a Sergeant for three years before you got the Joint Air Traffic Control Course at RAF Shawbury, then IF you got your licence you became a Flight Sergeant, From friends that i have in RAF, they tell me that nothing has changed except for the radar course.

So who is going to train them?



As for the AC's forum, that died a death a while ago.

Hm wonder why the death of the forum was not promulgated with the same amount of gusto as it's birth. :w00t:
Maybe it was just too insular and full of boring people.
 
Ninja_Stoker said:
That's the reason I started the thread as I was hoping we could have a secret T22 After Engine Room part of ship forum too, affiliated to the Ship's Painter forum.

Ooh ooh can I join, I was a controlly on B1 and B3 T22s :)
(I hope that counts!)
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Lamri said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
That's the reason I started the thread as I was hoping we could have a secret T22 After Engine Room part of ship forum too, affiliated to the Ship's Painter forum.

Ooh ooh can I join, I was a controlly on B1 and B3 T22s :)
(I hope that counts!)

Sorry mate, it's only Boxer style T22 (B2's) ratings.


Thanks for asking though, it's just that the later types were a bit too warlike because they had guns and stuff. Maybe you could start your own clique and then you could become affiliated members of mine. :thumright:
 

slim

War Hero
Ninja_Stoker said:
Lamri said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
That's the reason I started the thread as I was hoping we could have a secret T22 After Engine Room part of ship forum too, affiliated to the Ship's Painter forum.

Ooh ooh can I join, I was a controlly on B1 and B3 T22s :)
(I hope that counts!)

Sorry mate, it's only Boxer style T22 (B2's) ratings.


Thanks for asking though, it's just that the later types were a bit too warlike because they had guns and stuff. Maybe you could start your own clique and then you could become affiliated members of mine. :thumright:

Hey Ninja how about honary membership for us wafu's who have worn Boxer shorts and actually spoken to a stoker :thumright:
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
slim said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
Lamri said:
Ninja_Stoker said:
That's the reason I started the thread as I was hoping we could have a secret T22 After Engine Room part of ship forum too, affiliated to the Ship's Painter forum.

Ooh ooh can I join, I was a controlly on B1 and B3 T22s :)
(I hope that counts!)

Sorry mate, it's only Boxer style T22 (B2's) ratings.


Thanks for asking though, it's just that the later types were a bit too warlike because they had guns and stuff. Maybe you could start your own clique and then you could become affiliated members of mine. :thumright:

Hey Ninja how about honary membership for us wafu's who have worn Boxer shorts and actually spoken to a stoker :thumright:

Slim, you're more than welcome my good chap, I quite get on with woos after being an AIR 219/SMAC 233 professional flightdeck clicky-bed, 2 second rule, wrestler. My only wish was that the Lynx had a greater endurance in the air.
 
Just wondering what exactly is the Flying Aptitude tests and what does it consist of? Is there anyway i can revise to help pass this test?any replies would be really helpfull tar
 

avoiding_action

Lantern Swinger
In the rescent round of selections for PO, a young ex-chockhead who went AC only about 3 or 4 years ago as a fresh faced NA1 may soon be returning to a CVS as a POAC. With all his old branch-mates still NA1's on the deck! Not swift promotion?????
 
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