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Advice on joining the RN.

Good evening all,

I’m after some advice,

I’m 23 years old and currently a serving prison officer of four years in April this year,

When I was 16 I applied for the Royal Navy, but had to withdraw from my application due to a fractured collar bone & dislocated shoulder.

I’m now considering a career within the RN but unfortunately due to my GCSE scores I can’t go in as an engineer as I had originally planned,
I’m considering the ‘Warfare specialist’ role, but I’m not 100% as i want something which I can fall back on if my naval career doesn’t work out,
What are peoples thoughts on joining as a warfare specialist?

Many thanks,

Jordan.


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Alfacharlie

War Hero
Good evening all,

I’m after some advice,

I’m 23 years old and currently a serving prison officer of four years in April this year,

When I was 16 I applied for the Royal Navy, but had to withdraw from my application due to a fractured collar bone & dislocated shoulder.

I’m now considering a career within the RN but unfortunately due to my GCSE scores I can’t go in as an engineer as I had originally planned,
I’m considering the ‘Warfare specialist’ role, but I’m not 100% as i want something which I can fall back on if my naval career doesn’t work out,
What are peoples thoughts on joining as a warfare specialist?

Many thanks,

Jordan.


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I joined as a dabber before transferring to AC after four years. I was an OM(AW) though. As an OM we were sometimes placed within a WE role onboard (even though we didn’t have a clue what we were doing). I hated engineering as I just wanted to do radar (which is why I transferred). So, I kind of knew my employment prospects were limited outside, but I was happy with that anyway.

Although your options maybe limited upon leaving, employers still like the fact you’re ex forces, regardless of trade, so you still get a slight advantage.
Obviously,if you can get in as an engineer and that is what you want, go for it.

Dabber is what you make of it. Everyone has a part of ship to clean, so all have to get over that.
You’ll be responsible for the maintenance of the upper deck as that is where you’ll spend the majority of your time, unless you’re on watch in the ops room. Don’t get me wrong, when you’re off the coast of Scotland in January, and you’re freezing your balls off, it’s shit. But, you’ll be deployed to warmer parts at some point and you’ll be trying to find stuff to do just to be up there, while the stokers and chef’s etc are all stuck below decks. Swings and roundabouts.
The most responsibility you’ll have on joining is taking charge of a mop at most. Don’t get deflated by this. Get task books done, get promoted and before you know it, you’ll be a killick. Then you’ll have slightly more responsibility and sometimes wish you were back throwing the mop around.

Long post, I got time on my hands this week!

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crash_evans

War Hero
Agree with [mention]Alfacharlie [/mention] if you have any questions feel free to private message me. I’ve waxed lyrical about the WS branch in many other posts, use the search box and you will find out more. It’s well trodden ground.

My niggle is your previous injuries. Most likely the dislocated shoulder. I’m not a medic, it’s just something to be aware of.

I’ve been a WS for 23 years and started off life as [mention]Alfacharlie [/mention] (an OM). I also hated the WE aspects and love the banter of being in an OPS Room watch/Sound Room. We are fiercely proud of our sub branches.

That said, if you want to be an engineer and have transferable skills. Do your GCSE via online learning. They get more pay and can snap jobs up outside.

Conversely, the RN will pay for you to complete a Level 4/5 degree if you don’t have one. Something to think about regardless of branch. This is something I’ll be doing to top up my foundation degree prior to leaving.


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WreckerL

War Hero
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I was WE branch initially and then got moved to the ME branch but I love fixing broken things and making them work again, sometimes I didn't even have left over bits but in answer to your question I don't understand why your GCSE results make a difference. Were you looking at ET(WE) or (ME) route, UGAS or officer?

As an ET you don't need any GCSE's.
 
I was WE branch initially and then got moved to the ME branch but I love fixing broken things and making them work again, sometimes I didn't even have left over bits but in answer to your question I don't understand why your GCSE results make a difference. Were you looking at ET(WE) or (ME) route, UGAS or officer?

As an ET you don't need any GCSE's.

I was told because there is no recruitment test, the score was based on my GCSE results (of which I have very poor ones) which is frustrating as I have a Level 3 diploma in the management and care of individuals in the custodial environment, but that isn’t taken in to consideration.
I wanted to enter as either an engineering technician (marine) but was told I didn’t have enough ‘points’ from my GCSE scores


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WreckerL

War Hero
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I was told because there is no recruitment test, the score was based on my GCSE results (of which I have very poor ones) which is frustrating as I have a Level 3 diploma in the management and care of individuals in the custodial environment, but that isn’t taken in to consideration.
I wanted to enter as either an engineering technician (marine) but was told I didn’t have enough ‘points’ from my GCSE scores


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That's not what the website says, nor has it ever been the case as far as I'm aware


When you asked the recruiter did you ask to go on the UGAS scheme or just enquire about ET(ME)?
 

Waspie

War Hero
I was told because there is no recruitment test, the score was based on my GCSE results (of which I have very poor ones) which is frustrating as I have a Level 3 diploma in the management and care of individuals in the custodial environment, but that isn’t taken in to consideration.
I wanted to enter as either an engineering technician (marine) but was told I didn’t have enough ‘points’ from my GCSE scores


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Who told you?

If it wasn't a CA at your AFCO then disregard.

Hearsay and rumour are rife in military circles and so called 'friends'. Only take advice from formal sources. AFCO!!
 
Who told you?

If it wasn't a CA at your AFCO then disregard.

Hearsay and rumour are rife in military circles and so called 'friends'. Only take advice from formal sources. AFCO!!

I was told over the phone by the AFCO, i will contact again today to clarify


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That's not what the website says, nor has it ever been the case as far as I'm aware


When you asked the recruiter did you ask to go on the UGAS scheme or just enquire about ET(ME)?

Well that’s why I got confused as it states “no qualifications” online,

The application i submitted was for normal ET, not ugas.


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I think the AFCO may have got the wrong end of the stick.

I will contact him today and ask the questions (politely of course).
I also received via email:

“Available Roles to you using the points from your GCSE’s:

Warfare Specialist
Warfare Specialist Submariner
Seaman Specialist
Supply Chain (Stores)
Catering Services
Aircraft Handler
Royal Marine “


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Alfacharlie

War Hero
I will contact him today and ask the questions (politely of course).
I also received via email:

“Available Roles to you using the points from your GCSE’s:

Warfare Specialist
Warfare Specialist Submariner
Seaman Specialist
Supply Chain (Stores)
Catering Services
Aircraft Handler
Royal Marine “


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Is it just because they’re not conducting the RT test? Once COVID has eased off and tests underway again, you’d probably be able to apply in the hope of getting a decent mark for engineers??

I could be wrong though. Just a thought.
 
Is it just because they’re not conducting the RT test? Once COVID has eased off and tests underway again, you’d probably be able to apply in the hope of getting a decent mark for engineers??

I could be wrong though. Just a thought.

I think that’s the case yes. So it goes on points


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crash_evans

War Hero
This is the case. In the current situation, there is no RT test and it goes on points from your GCSE grades.

If I was you, unless it is imperative you join now. Wait until RT opens up for face to face.


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Waspie

War Hero
I was told over the phone by the AFCO, i will contact again today to clarify


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Makes me wonder if you spoke to a CA or an office wallah!! (A naval person but not a CA). Sometimes sickies get seconded to their local AFCO to be near home!!

Pursue it, doesn't sound right to me!!
 

crash_evans

War Hero
Makes me wonder if you spoke to a CA or an office wallah!! (A naval person but not a CA). Sometimes sickies get seconded to their local AFCO to be near home!!

Pursue it, doesn't sound right to me!!

All CA’s are working remotely as AFCO’s have been shut due to government guidelines.

Phones will have been diverted to work mobiles, usually to the Office manager or a CA3.

It’s turbo turd that the Careers Service have to use the scoring matrix. However, in the times we are in doing a face to face RT test to potentially 20 people off the street isn’t safe/risk too high and unnecessary travel.

As per above. I recommend the OP if he wants to be an engineer either waits until lockdown is over/Tier system allows movement. Or, he does his GCSE’s. Which one will be quicker is anyone’s guess! You lose nothing doing your GCSE for future employment. It might be a wait for engineers anyway?

Hope this helps.


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Waspie

War Hero
As per above. I recommend the OP if he wants to be an engineer either waits until lockdown is over/Tier system allows movement. Or, he does his GCSE’s. Which one will be quicker is anyone’s guess! You lose nothing doing your GCSE for future employment. It might be a wait for engineers anyway?

Hope this helps.


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Thanks @crash_evans , every day a learning day they say. Always true on here.

As for GCSE's, how times have changed. Emphasis these days being on Quals. I have managed to get through life with, (this may take a while to count!!!!) Oh yes - None!!!! Aircraft Fitter, then Aircrew. British Red Cross (Paid) not a volunteer!!! Financial Consultant, (paid con man), MoD for another 20 years. Great pensions and all on the back of my big gob!!!

Todays youth have certainly more hurdles to jump than my generation ever did. Power to the elbow!!
 
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