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Advice needed please

Thomal99

Midshipman
Hello all
My son passed his recruitment test yesterday and was offered CIS, Warfare and Seaman Specialist roles amongst a few others. He didn't score high enough for engineering which was what he was originally wanting to do. He is now thinking about Royal Marine Commando role and personally I think he would be better suited to this role but I have two real concerns. 1. The obvious dangers of this job and 2. The high drop out rate during training.
My question is, if he drops out of training because he fails the course would he be able to re look at the CIS (WE) role again or would it be a bar?
Also the CIS role looks desk bound? Are we right in thinking that as this wouldn't suit him at all as he is more hands on and physical. He is 16 yrs old and sporty.
Any advice gratefully received.
 
My congratulations to your son on his success. First note - there is not really such a thing as a'desk bound' job in those trades, certainly not during the early years anyway and CIS is a good mix of technical and operator skills so probably the one to choose if he needs activity and challenge to stay focused. If he is sporty and active and is inclined to try RM the selection then training will confirm whether he really wants to do it and if he pulls out or doesn't succeed there is no bar to him coming back to try other areas of the service again. If he is successful through training, there are also options within the RM if he wishes to move over to the engineering/information systems side after basic training, also to transfer across RN or later on to go for commission either in the RM or RN depending on his progress, aptitude and where he wants to end up. Whatever he chooses I wish him the best of luck and the only other thing I would say is if he does choose to join the military, get him some good well-fitting boots to start walking around in as soon as possible - building resilience in the lower limbs prevents injury and trainers do not achieve this! Being accustomed to wearing proper boots is something a lot of recruits lack these days which can lead to lower limb stress injuries as training goes on and this will delay the recruits progress. If you buy them in brown he can wear them post training along with his issue ones. I hope this is helpful.
 

Thomal99

Midshipman
Thank you - that's really helpful. I don't know what the waiting times are for RM v CIS but he is hoping he won't have to go into Sixth Form.
I think it may be ideal to look at pros and cons for both and he decides which route will suit him.
I don't want to influence his decision but as any parent would, I want him to make the right decision.
Thanks again.
 
Of course you do and its a big step. If you have no experience of the military in the family and he wants to have an informal/no commitment chat or email with some current serving personnel of either flavour I have some friends on both RM and RN sides. I work in the CIS world myself and have also worked as an initial training instructor so I can certainly point you towards people who could give him a picture of what life is like in training and in the job if it would be of use?
 

dapperdunn

War Hero
Book Reviewer
I'm sure 'Uncle Arthur' @Ninja_Stoker will be along go correct me, but I didn't think you could join the Royal Marines at 16, so he'll have to do sixth form if he want to go down that route
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
My question is, if he drops out of training because he fails the course would he be able to re look at the CIS (WE) role again or would it be a bar?
As a fresh applicant, yes he can apply to join in a different role/branch providing he is recommended further service & doesn't "burn bridges".

The only thing I'd add to that already stated with regards conditioning and wearing boots/carrying weight etc., if considering joining the Royal Marines, is the Corps do not advise candidates to either run in boots or whilst carrying weight prior to joining. Obviously applicants will do as they choose, but CTC reckon it heightens the risk of incurring lower-limb injuries. Walking in boots and carrying weight prior to joining is heartily encouraged.

Common sense would suggest that if you are going to get an injury - do it in "company time" whilst earning a wage, rather than in your own.

Optimum age for joining the Corps & achieving success is between the ages of 19-23 but plenty achieve their goal between the ages of 16-32. The attrition rate in training of those under 18 and those over age 30 is double the optimum age group.
I have two real concerns. 1. The obvious dangers of this job and 2. The high drop out rate during training.
If you join the Parent & Partner section of the PRMC Forum, you can link-up with like-minded individuals who share the same interests and concerns. I guarantee you will be made very welcome: http://www.royalmarines.uk/
 

Trainer

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Yet again Mum, joining the Corps at 16 I'm led to believe increases the risk of getting 'broken', as some lads have not quite grown out.

I'm surprised he passed for CIS and not Engineering, as both are quite technical but I'm sure the Hon Arthur Wilson could correct me on scores.

If his dearest wish is to be an Engineer, then go into 6th form and study some more maths or do a vocational course and reattack in 12 or 24 months time. The Navy is screaming for Engineers. Get some more practice at the Psychometric tests they use for the RT scores and he will get better. Available online or from Amazon.

There are several classes of engineers training less than 50 feet from where I'm sat typing, and good maths when they arrive always helps them through. We're not making Mathematicians though, we 're making Engineers. Engineering will always provide employment throughout life, whereas being a qualified infanteer might not.

Also I'd suggest that if you want to go Royal, then it's 100% or nothing. As a second option might prove to reveal less than perfect motivation.

He could join the RNR or RMR whilst he waits, and get a taste of military life.
 

Thomal99

Midshipman
Thank you for your replies. All very useful and helpful. After a weekend of a lot of discussion our son has set his heart on going down the Royal Marine route. This was his second attempt at the test and the first time he went for it he was only 15 and not prepared and at that time he wanted the Royal Marine route. We persuaded him to look at the engineering roles for the second attempt test but after passing he has decided that being a Royal Marine is what he really wants to do. And so it begins.......


Ps have tried logging onto the PRMC forum but not having any luck. I don't get the email asking for confirmation despite trying two different email addresses.
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
Thank you for your replies. All very useful and helpful. After a weekend of a lot of discussion our son has set his heart on going down the Royal Marine route. This was his second attempt at the test and the first time he went for it he was only 15 and not prepared and at that time he wanted the Royal Marine route. We persuaded him to look at the engineering roles for the second attempt test but after passing he has decided that being a Royal Marine is what he really wants to do. And so it begins.......


Ps have tried logging onto the PRMC forum but not having any luck. I don't get the email asking for confirmation despite trying two different email addresses.
Check your junk mail/spam folder. Manually activated.
 
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