Actual Submariner Pay?

#1
I have my interview in a few days and having looked on the Navy website and at the literature I have plus having done a search on here, I have some conflicting information that I was wondering if someone in the know could help with.

What are the actual rates of pay for a submariner?

On the job spec sheet I have the rates of pay are the following:

Starting salary £13,377 rising to £16,681 pa

Then on the Submarine careers feature it states the starting pay for submariners is £19500 plus the normal extras. Have a look - http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/explore-jobs/fleet/submarines/

It will no doubt come up in the interview and I was just wondering which was right.
 

Graf

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#5
oscar_the_grouch said:
I have my interview in a few days and having looked on the Navy website and at the literature I have plus having done a search on here, I have some conflicting information that I was wondering if someone in the know could help with.

What are the actual rates of pay for a submariner?

On the job spec sheet I have the rates of pay are the following:

Starting salary £13,377 rising to £16,681 pa

Then on the Submarine careers feature it states the starting pay for submariners is £19500 plus the normal extras. Have a look - http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/explore-jobs/fleet/submarines/

It will no doubt come up in the interview and I was just wondering which was right.
The 13K figure is correct for a rating entry, the 19k figure is for officers entry
 
#6
Actual rates of pay for submariners are paid to actual submariners. Before you become one, you have to join an actual submarine, and actually pass your actual PtIII/SMQ. Good news is that if you are lucky enough to get a jolly before you have actually qualified, you'll be on subbies (regardless of whether you are actually an AB or a Subby) and not actuals.
 
#7
Joe_Crow said:
Actual rates of pay for submariners are paid to actual submariners. Before you become one, you have to join an actual submarine, and actually pass your actual PtIII/SMQ. Good news is that if you are lucky enough to get a jolly before you have actually qualified, you'll be on subbies (regardless of whether you are actually an AB or a Subby) and not actuals.
:)

Ok then smart arse, would you enlighten me and tell me what the actual rates of pay are for actual submariners
 
#9
oscar_the_grouch said:
Joe_Crow said:
Actual rates of pay for submariners are paid to actual submariners. Before you become one, you have to join an actual submarine, and actually pass your actual PtIII/SMQ. Good news is that if you are lucky enough to get a jolly before you have actually qualified, you'll be on subbies (regardless of whether you are actually an AB or a Subby) and not actuals.
:)

Ok then smart arse, would you enlighten me and tell me what the actual rates of pay are for actual submariners
Incoming!!!:D
 
#10
Joint_Force_Harrier said:
oscar_the_grouch said:
Joe_Crow said:
Actual rates of pay for submariners are paid to actual submariners. Before you become one, you have to join an actual submarine, and actually pass your actual PtIII/SMQ. Good news is that if you are lucky enough to get a jolly before you have actually qualified, you'll be on subbies (regardless of whether you are actually an AB or a Subby) and not actuals.
:)

Ok then smart arse, would you enlighten me and tell me what the actual rates of pay are for actual submariners
Incoming!!!:D
I thought I would get some aggro for that nevermind (I can feel a cock of the week nomination coming)

BARNEYRNSM said:
When I was in it was LOADS OF MONEY!!!
Thread over I think, thats a brilliant answer. Sounds good enough for me
 
#11
Taken from the report that wetanduseless gave you the link for, seeing as how you don't seem to have bothered your arse looking at it.


Rate Reserve Band rate
75% 50% 25%
£/day £/day £/day £/day
SP(Submarine)
Level 1 – payable on qualification 12.12 9.09 6.06 3.03
Level 2 – payable after 5 years on Level 1 15.75 11.81 7.88 3.94
Level 3 – payable after 5 years on Level 2 18.78 14.09 9.39 4.70
Level 4 – payable after 5 years on Level 3 21.22 15.92 10.61 5.31
Level 5 – payable to Officers qualifying Advanced Warfare Course or in ChargeQualified positions 26.66 20.00 13.33 6.67

Submarine Supplement 5.24 (Paid everyday while on a boat)
 
#12
oscar_the_grouch said:
Joint_Force_Harrier said:
oscar_the_grouch said:
Joe_Crow said:
Actual rates of pay for submariners are paid to actual submariners. Before you become one, you have to join an actual submarine, and actually pass your actual PtIII/SMQ. Good news is that if you are lucky enough to get a jolly before you have actually qualified, you'll be on subbies (regardless of whether you are actually an AB or a Subby) and not actuals.
:)

Ok then smart arse, would you enlighten me and tell me what the actual rates of pay are for actual submariners
Incoming!!!:D
I thought I would get some aggro for that nevermind (I can feel a cock of the week nomination coming)
From the AFPRB report that wetanduseless provided a link to above:

Annual pay all entrants £13,645 (I think you are on this for six months)
Annual pay OR2/3 (AB) £17,015 (this is for the first year, both higher and lower pay bands)
Submarine Pay £12.12 per day, or £4,423.8 per year (once you've passed your SMQ)
SM supplement £5.24 per day, or £1912.6 per year (You get this if you are serving on a sea-going boat)
Longer Separation Allowance £6.69 per day. (You get paid this if you are serving on a sea-going boat, and are at sea. I have not put an annual rate, as you will not be at sea for a year. If you do a 90 day patrol, you get about £600. If you do an eight month deployment, and are black watch, you get around £1600.)

So, by the time you are an actual submariner, you should be getting close to twenty-five grand (plus, of course, your £5k golden handshake)

As for cock-of-the-week nominations, I would never nominate someone for having a dig at me, as that comes across as sour grapes - I leave that to pan troglodytes with insecurity issues.
 
#13
pompeyexpat said:
Taken from the report that wetanduseless gave you the link for, seeing as how you don't seem to have bothered your arse looking at it.


Rate Reserve Band rate
75% 50% 25%
£/day £/day £/day £/day
SP(Submarine)
Level 1 – payable on qualification 12.12 9.09 6.06 3.03
Level 2 – payable after 5 years on Level 1 15.75 11.81 7.88 3.94
Level 3 – payable after 5 years on Level 2 18.78 14.09 9.39 4.70
Level 4 – payable after 5 years on Level 3 21.22 15.92 10.61 5.31
Level 5 – payable to Officers qualifying Advanced Warfare Course or in ChargeQualified positions 26.66 20.00 13.33 6.67

Submarine Supplement 5.24 (Paid everyday while on a boat)
I did actually look at it and have a good look through it but to be honest I am still struggling to make much sense of it and what you have put doesnt really mean all that much to me also. Thanks anyway, to you and wetanduseless but I am just going to go with the pdf I have.
 
#16
Oscar,

Mmm, Your Occupation: "Work in an accounts dept which is mind numbingâ€

Mind-numbing as you might find it whenever/if ever you get to join the RN you will need to get a very firm grip on your personal pay entitlements, stoppages, mulcts, Tax & NI etc etc. These generally change annually iaw whatever the Government has accepted of the recommendation made by the AFPRB.

Blindly trusting the Pusser to get it right every time is trust misplaced.

It is not unknown for them to eventually realise that you have been well overpaid. Then suddenly it becomes payback time and you learn what a painful “Nor’ Easter†is all about - and it is NOT about chocolate eggs and fluffy bunnies either.
 
#18
oscar_the_grouch said:
pompeyexpat said:
Taken from the report that wetanduseless gave you the link for, seeing as how you don't seem to have bothered your arse looking at it.


Rate Reserve Band rate
75% 50% 25%
£/day £/day £/day £/day
SP(Submarine)
Level 1 – payable on qualification 12.12 9.09 6.06 3.03
Level 2 – payable after 5 years on Level 1 15.75 11.81 7.88 3.94
Level 3 – payable after 5 years on Level 2 18.78 14.09 9.39 4.70
Level 4 – payable after 5 years on Level 3 21.22 15.92 10.61 5.31
Level 5 – payable to Officers qualifying Advanced Warfare Course or in ChargeQualified positions 26.66 20.00 13.33 6.67

Submarine Supplement 5.24 (Paid everyday while on a boat)
I did actually look at it and have a good look through it but to be honest I am still struggling to make much sense of it and what you have put doesnt really mean all that much to me also. Thanks anyway, to you and wetanduseless but I am just going to go with the pdf I have.
Apologies if that didn't come out clearly, it was cut and pasted straight from the PDF.

Submarine pay is paid in bands, rising every 5 years. The first figure is the daily rate of submarine pay for that band: i.e Level 1 – £12.12. The 3 figures that follow after that are the 3 reserve bands of submarine pay, set at 75, 50 & 25%, which is what your submarine pay drops to after 3 years (75%), 4 years (50%) and 5 years (25%) away from a submarine job. After 6 years you lose it completely.
Submarine supplement is paid to all submariners serving on a boat at the same daily rate, regardless of rank or rate.
As has also been pointed out, submariners living in barracks do not pay for their accommodation while serving on a boat. In a shore job or in training you will.
Hope that clears it up.
 

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