Action Working Dress

onions

GCM
A buddy and I were discussing "Jack" films today and one of the questions that came up was, "What was the AWD during before, during and after WW2. When were No 8s introduced"?

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Before the war and during the war[WW2] it was blue suits or overalls.
In those days you had three blue suits . No 1's , best ,2's duty rig -red badges and 3's oldest blues red badges. Overalls were either worn over the blue suit or depending on climate on their own.
I don't think AWD [No 8's ]came in till about 1947 although the Canadians and US Navy had shirts and trousers working rigs.

Also you were issued with an Oilskin and an overcoat the pussers burberry
[raincoat] with detachable lining came in about 1956 .
 

onions

GCM
The rig they wear now is, I think, bloody awful, especially if it is worn in public. While waiting for a flight at Southampton airport my wife pointed out someone with a White Ensign shoulder patch. They looked like a complete and utter scranbag!! OK, I am an ex G.I. but this guy was the epitome of a stoker in one of Jan's cartoons! When he turned round I was aghast to see that he was a Warrant Officer! What a disgrace to the RN of today.
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
The rig they wear now is, I think, bloody awful, especially if it is worn in public. While waiting for a flight at Southampton airport my wife pointed out someone with a White Ensign shoulder patch. They looked like a complete and utter scranbag!! OK, I am an ex G.I. but this guy was the epitome of a stoker in one of Jan's cartoons! When he turned round I was aghast to see that he was a Warrant Officer! What a disgrace to the RN of today.
It is what it is, PCS is basically MTP in blue. No doubt your predecessors thought you looked a sack of shit when you wore 8's.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with it, at least it's not blue camo pattern like some navy's have adopted.
 

fishhead

War Hero
For us PSOFs it is always a little strange to see what is now PCS being worn outside the confines of H.M. Ships/Establishments. The old No.8s/4s were never very smart in my opinion and on most occasions scruffy as after all they were working clothes. I have no opinion on the latest creation but doubt they are any less smart than what they replaced.
 
Before the war and during the war[WW2] it was blue suits or overalls.
Ovies, officially referred to as boiler suits (regular dhobeying might not have removed the oil/grease stains but the original dark blue colour aka sprog shine soon washed-out to med blue & lighter.)

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Clip depicting Jack & his oppos wearing ovies (from the current BBC1 WW2 drama series "World on Fire"*) aboard HMS CUMBERLAND prior to the Battle of the River Plate.
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But ovies with collars? Perhaps they were subsequently removed? 1960's onwards they were issued without collars.

-https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0009f7n/world-on-fire-series-1-episode-3
 

WreckerL

War Hero
Super Moderator
Ovies, officially referred to as boiler suits (regular dhobeying might not have removed the oil/grease stains but the original dark blue colour aka sprog shine soon washed-out to med blue & lighter.)

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Clip depicting Jack & his oppos wearing ovies (from the current BBC1 WW2 drama series "World on Fire"*) aboard HMS CUMBERLAND prior to the Battle of the River Plate.
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But ovies with collars? Perhaps they were subsequently removed? 1960's onwards they were issued without collars.

-https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0009f7n/world-on-fire-series-1-episode-3
Pedant mode on

In the series he's on HMS Exeter, the Cumberland didn't get to Montevideo on time.

Pedant mode off :)
 

dapperdunn

War Hero
Book Reviewer
You can still see the mast of the Graf Spee above the water in the estuary. I've passed by a few times transiting to Montevideo.
 
The rig they wear now is, I think, bloody awful, especially if it is worn in public. While waiting for a flight at Southampton airport my wife pointed out someone with a White Ensign shoulder patch. They looked like a complete and utter scranbag!! OK, I am an ex G.I. but this guy was the epitome of a stoker in one of Jan's cartoons! When he turned round I was aghast to see that he was a Warrant Officer! What a disgrace to the RN of today.

How do you think we feel? It shrinks quicker than my tackle in horsea island lake in winter and fades faster than a peaky blinder's hair cut!

from official source said:
A Post-Project evaluation was recently carried out on the RNPCS uniform that was introduced into Service in 2015. The evaluation, backed by numerous PDRs, DLIMs, and direct user feedback, highlighted that the main concern with RNPCS is the unsuitability in hot climates. Subsequently, the RNPCS Upgrade Project has been established. Our Vision Statement is to “Procure a world class, professional, smart, military style uniform, that Royal Navy sailors are proud of, which is commensurate with a world class Navy.” We are seeking a solution that reduces the thermal burden in hot climates, yet, with appropriate layering, improves the insulating properties when operating in cold weather conditions. Our requirement is technically challenging and complex, particularly given the trade-off between flame retardancy and the weight of the material. Four materials were selected and made into uniforms in May, unfortunately failed either or both the flame and shrinkage tests that are required before a uniform can be trialled at sea. We are seeking to introduce an upgraded product in Q4 2020, subject to successful trials.

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