Action Stations Questions

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  1. Morning All,

    Could anyone tell me what do the following people do when the ship is as action stations:


    I can't seem to find any info on this online



    They are answerable to the CO about availability their relevant Equipment to allow the ship to carryout it's task. (god that almost sounds sexual, however I word it).


    :) :lol:
  2. That is a very good question and is something that the WE and ME departments have pondered about for many years. :lol:
  3. If its a safeguard incident they are collectivley known as the wardroom fire party!
  4. DWEO hands out chinographs.
  5. And the others use them to colour in pretty pictures :lol:
  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Alternatively, in broad brush terms, because those yet to join don't need to know a great deal beyond the following:

    Command Adviser

    The WEO is usually the Command Adviser. His position is not only to receive information, but also for the input of damage control and firefighting information which may be fed to all outstations so the implications are understood. WEO monitors the external battle and the tactical situation, and passes on high priority information direct to the Commanding Officer and the warfare team.

    Internal Battle Controller (IBC)

    The IBC will normally be the MEO and he/she coordinates the HQ1 team to achieve logical progress towards the Command Aim. He keeps an overall view of all damage control and firefighting, CBRN, electrical repair and propulsion incidents, while making full use of the specialists around him.

    Damage Control Officer (DCO)

    The DCO, usually the Logistics Officer, he/she provides an assessment for the IBC of the overall damage picture in the ship (except in the main machinery spaces & weapons/sensors). He coordinates the efforts of the Fire and Repair Parties (FRPs) and medical teams.

    Officer in Charge of the Weapon Section Base (OIC WSB)

    The WSB is normally under the control of the DWEO. He coordinates and directs the Weapon Repair Team (WRT) made up of WE personnel, dispersed at strategic locations throughout the ship.

    Fire and Repair Party

    To maximise Damage Control experience, the Officers In Charge of Fire and Repair Party damage control teams are usually the DMEO and DLO.
  7. I thought the IBC and the DCO were the same person, or is this just small ships?

    The XO on a small ship is one of the IBC as well.
  8. During the incident they are mostly "busy" as in "crack on Chief, I'm busy"
  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    The above is generically based around Frigates & Destroyers (FF/DD) where manpower permits. The XO on larger vessels is usually the Command Rover (or one of several).

    In Minewarfare and Patrol Vessels (MM/PPs) Due to the manning levels, the standard responsibilities of the Executive Officer and the Marine Engineer Officer cannot always be fully applied.

    In MM/PPs where the MEO is a Senior Rating, the XO usually assumes full responsibility for CBRN and Damage Control. He is assisted by the MEO as the senior technical adviser whenever the ship goes to Action or Emergency Stations.

    On bigger ships, the Command Rover function, provides essential support to the IBC, the Directors and the Command Advisor (WEO), in providing an expert audit of the overall picture and a Command level physical link between the Command Team, the scenes of all incidents and the FRPP/Section Bases that control them.
  10. Why would anyone need to know this? Are some AFCOs having a competition to see what inane questions they can get their POCs to ask on RR?!
  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Dunno, to be honest.

    Anything more detailed than the above delves into the realms of classified information.

    Possibly the OP just wants to know specifically what the job entails in the war environment, something that is admittedly lacking in detail in the careers publications.

    It's an odd one really as candidates are told about their day to day jobs and the fact that they maybe called upon to risk their lives in an operational theatre, in fact they get hard times for thinking otherwise, but they are seldom told much about the way in which way they go about risking their lives in relation to their job in the action scenario, which is actually why the job exists.
  12. True, but still....

    Don't people join the RN to have fun, see a bit of the world and get some qualifications (I'm not being glib!)? Hell, I took my AIB after sending in a voucher from FHM and meeting my ACLO in a pub in Hull, and that the limits of my preparation.

    Even the answer above doesn't cover the fact that a) you're only likely to be at State 1 for 8 weeks in any one appointment (BOST), b) N-S's description only just scratches the surface of the job at State 1 and c) I've never done the same job for more than 18 months running.

    So, a question to Rob - why do you want to know this, and having been told it, has it affected your choice of career? I'm being serious, and quite interested in the answer.....
  13. Because the AFCOs would like to know but are afraid to ask. :)
  14. It was asked during rounds on a pre-BRNC course at the weekend, was asked to all of the people on the course joining in Jan as weapons engineering officers.
  15. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Generally, even during OST, the longest time I've witnessed a ship at State One (as a FOSTie) was about 10 hours for a Chemex which was normally conducted in the Med, operationally enroute to the Gulf. Much longer than that is pretty much unsustainable due to habitability and practicality, hence State Two, however it is our raison d'être, regardless of frequency or duration. During the Falklands campaign, we were at Action Stations sunrise to sunset daily, albeit for less than two months.

    When we consider that most of us know what fighter pilots & warfare officers do in the action state, it does kind of make sense that those about to apply for, and be trained in other jobs, are aware roughly what's involved. The "nitty-gritty" is actually UK Restricted & taught on a need to know basis.

    On the subject of the length of Offficers appointments & their duration, that's a separate subject in it's own right. Some may say it takes six months to a year in the life cycle of a ship to fully get to grips with all aspects of the job, no matter how academically gifted the individual, and sometimes the lack of current operational seagoing experience at certain levels, including ratings, is painfully obvious. Then again others would heartily disagree. :wink:
  16. Now that you've 'been there, done that and know it all' I guess any question will appear inane to you, Al. :roll:

    Cut the younkers some slack, FGS :evil:
  17. BOB - it's not that, but I really don't know what they'll gain by having a v small amount of knowledge. It won't help pass the AIB (because it's not detailed enough, and only a small part of the job), it shouldn't influence your job choice that much (again, because it's a much smaller part of your job than some of the more valid questions on here) and if it's asked post-AIB and pre-BRNC, I'm not sure what the Staff are trying to achieve. They'll have plenty of time on IFT and SFT(ME/WE) to learn about it properly instead of the very small bits we can tell them on here.

    (As an aside, I like to think I'm quite helpful to the newbies - as far as possible I've outlined the day to day routines of a junior Officer for several specialisations, none of which included my State 1 position or role.)

    So, all in all, I can't blame the man for asking, but I think he's been given a bum-steer by the Staff who asked, and is probably quite confused: unless someone told him the entire State 1 organisation, with a diagram, and some first hand knowledge of it, it will probably make little sense. That's why a CFT YO's ability to describe the State 1 Organisation was one of the "go/no-go" criteria at Fleet Board.
  18. As Tom said, It was a question asked on the Pre-BRNC course and we were told to find out before we start in January. Thanks for the reponses, it is appreciated.
  19. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker War Hero Moderator

    Think nothing of it, I've enjoyed this tread :wink:

    Best of luck with Officer training.
  20. what does RDP stand for??????

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