AAC Pilot

#1
Just wondered if anyone knew if other services besides the Army can become an AAC pilot. Was reading about a marine doing it, so was curious.
Cheers in advance
 
#3
When I was serving at Boscombe Down ,many years ago I had to visit Teeny Weeny Airways (Army Air Corps) at Middle Wallop.
I met a Royal Marine Staff Sergeant there who was a pilot and was teaching army pilots.


At that time the Army was encouraging as many as possible to qualify as Pilots. Reason for this was that some boffin discovered that an army land rover pulling a trailer of electronic gear cost more than a Scout helicopter.
It made sense that if a man could be trusted with equipment of such high value he should be trusted with something worth less.
Army pilots normally only flew for two years after qualifying, they were then returned to regiment. reason for this, in case of war they could be brought back as pilots in an extremely short time.
 
#5
I imagine he means AAC Apache? But this is only because somebody asking if you need to be in the Army to be in the AAC hurts my brain.

As far as I'm aware, the Navy has no Apache, nor equivalent really, as that's what the AAC/ Americans are there for, but I did read on the RN website that they are looking at options similiar. It is also worth noting however, that the Apache has passed its' sea trials, and can be found onboard HMS Ocean from time to time, but I'm yet to hear of an FAA pilot getting their hands on one.

I imagine the marine you heard about, was actually Chris Fraser-Perry, who sat on the wings during an assault of a Taleban compound, in an attempt to rescue the body of another marine. Fantastic story, some great pictures, and he's from my hometown, proving we're not all useless wastes of oxygen.
 

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#6
In a nutshell, bar some instructors and some attachments, you need to be in the AAC to be an AAC pilot. Pilots are senior NCO's or Officers. Aircraft are Gazelles (i think there are still some about), Lynx and Apaches IIRC. So basically what Blobmeister of the ally avatar said.
 
#7
Latest news out of Shawbury is that the Navy IS streaming Navy pilots into the Apache OCP. Not sure on numbers, but as the Merlin OCU is closed at present more Navy pilots are going to the crabs for Merlin Mk3 and Chinook OCUs, and now the Apache OCP also.
 

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#9
The Royal Marines no longer have Other Rank/NCO pilots sadly,although the Royal Marines are the only branch which you can sub specialise as a pilot (if commissioned), Aircrew, & about 27 other trades whilst still remaining a Royal Marines Commando. Certainly the Navy, Army or the 'civvies in uniform' can't match that.

If by AAC you're referring to All-Arms Commando, yep some aircrew (from all three services) undergo Commando training if the job requires it.
 
#11
yeah I did mean army air corps ninja but cheers anyway, was just reading one of ed macey's book and saw there was a marine on his flying course and just wondered if it was open to other services, but obviously not anymore then
 
#12
DannyW said:
I imagine he means AAC Apache? But this is only because somebody asking if you need to be in the Army to be in the AAC hurts my brain.

As far as I'm aware, the Navy has no Apache, nor equivalent really, as that's what the AAC/ Americans are there for, but I did read on the RN website that they are looking at options similiar. It is also worth noting however, that the Apache has passed its' sea trials, and can be found onboard HMS Ocean from time to time, but I'm yet to hear of an FAA pilot getting their hands on one.

I imagine the marine you heard about, was actually Chris Fraser-Perry, who sat on the wings during an assault of a Taleban compound, in an attempt to rescue the body of another marine. Fantastic story, some great pictures, and he's from my hometown, proving we're not all useless wastes of oxygen.



http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operati...*/changeNav/00h001001005001006/imageIndex/22/
 
#13
I note, as an aside, the following:

"847 NAS is unique in the Royal Navy in that the helicopters still belong to the British Army but are flown by Royal Marines and Royal Navy pilots. In addition, pilots from both the Army Air Corps and United States Marine Corps fly on exchange with the Squadron. Junior ranks of the Royal Marines are trained as door gunners using the 7.62 mm General Purpose Machine Gun."

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/fleet-air-arm/naval-air-squadrons/847/history/
 

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