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Blackrat

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No offence mate, but if you are a senior rank in the US Coast Guard, surely you would know the answer to this?
 

Guns

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There is no equivalent ceremony for CPO's in the RN. When I worked with the USN we used to have very fancy promotion events for our US CPO's. In the RN you tend to have a date with the CO to receive your buttons and then have to buy the drinks in your new mess.

CPO's and WO's have separate messes, were possible, on board.

As to the importance of rating up to CPO, it is an individual thing. I know some see Leading Hand as a major step, very much down to the individual. But within the command structure the move to CPO does mark the person out and brings a different expectation from the senior officers onboard about your role and ability. You will be seen much more part of the departmental leadership team (well you did in my last job).

CPO's will act as Officer of the Day (and should get the corresponding Officers leave privileges), Divisional Officer, Head of Department in smaller units, staff advisors in specialist areas (during TAURUS 09 my CPO(EW) was the senior EW rating in the TG for COMATG and advised accordingly) and other increases in work.

A good CPO is worth their weight in gold (and some of my chiefs have been no strangers to pastry products so that is a lot of gold), some are oxygen thieves. My last job at sea I had some of the finest Chiefs in the mob. CPO(AWT) Mac, CPO(CIS) B-S (and her relief was good as well),CPO(EW) Lenny and the DEPCO Swampy an absolute rock. The other warfare chiefs (CPO(SEA) and CPO(AH)) were both fine examples although they worked for others professional but to me as DHOD. Not sure if it is the same on other units but I couldn't have asked for better.
 
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Also CPOUSGC it's not wise to post your full name on an Internet site available to any Tom, Dick or Harry let alone some of the deviants on here, :twisted: you may find yourself in a world of Interweb hurt.
It maybe wise for you to edit out the details you've given.
 
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No offense taken. Not really asking what equals and E-7 in USCG/USN. More about customs and traditions associated with CPOs in your service. E-7/OR-7 ranks with in US services have very different places within their respective services.

I very much understand NATO rank equivalents but there are many things one can't learn from reading a manual or article that one can learn from talking to people that live it.

Outside of rendering honors when passing at sea I don't have much direct experience with the Royal Navy.

Thanks for the response.
 
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Guns said:
There is no equivalent ceremony for CPO's in the RN. When I worked with the USN we used to have very fancy promotion events for our US CPO's. In the RN you tend to have a date with the CO to receive your buttons and then have to buy the drinks in your new mess.

CPO's and WO's have separate messes, were possible, on board.

As to the importance of rating up to CPO, it is an individual thing. I know some see Leading Hand as a major step, very much down to the individual. But within the command structure the move to CPO does mark the person out and brings a different expectation from the senior officers onboard about your role and ability. You will be seen much more part of the departmental leadership team (well you did in my last job).

CPO's will act as Officer of the Day (and should get the corresponding Officers leave privileges), Divisional Officer, Head of Department in smaller units, staff advisors in specialist areas (during TAURUS 09 my CPO(EW) was the senior EW rating in the TG for COMATG and advised accordingly) and other increases in work.

A good CPO is worth their weight in gold (and some of my chiefs have been no strangers to pastry products so that is a lot of gold), some are oxygen thieves. My last job at sea I had some of the finest Chiefs in the mob. CPO(AWT) Mac, CPO(CIS) B-S (and her relief was good as well),CPO(EW) Lenny and the DEPCO Swampy an absolute rock. The other warfare chiefs (CPO(SEA) and CPO(AH)) were both fine examples although they worked for others professional but to me as DHOD. Not sure if it is the same on other units but I couldn't have asked for better.
Thank you for the response and information.
 
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NZ_Bootneck said:
Also CPOUSGC it's not wise to post your full name on an Internet site available to any Tom, Dick or Harry let alone some of the deviants on here, :twisted: you may find yourself in a world of Interweb hurt.
It maybe wise for you to edit out the details you've given.
Understood, thanks for the concern, although it is not my full name, rank, rating etc.
 

Blackrat

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CPOUSCG said:
NZ_Bootneck said:
Also CPOUSGC it's not wise to post your full name on an Internet site available to any Tom, Dick or Harry let alone some of the deviants on here, :twisted: you may find yourself in a world of Interweb hurt.
It maybe wise for you to edit out the details you've given.
Understood, thanks for the concern, although it is not my full name, rank, rating etc.
In that case, have you stitched up your mate? NZB has a point thought mucker. In this day and age, PERSEC is at a premium.
 
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CPOUSCG said:
NZ_Bootneck said:
Also CPOUSGC it's not wise to post your full name on an Internet site available to any Tom, Dick or Harry let alone some of the deviants on here, :twisted: you may find yourself in a world of Interweb hurt.
It maybe wise for you to edit out the details you've given.
Understood, thanks for the concern, although it is not my full name, rank, rating etc.
I see, more OD than CPO then. :roll:
 
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