A Place In the Navy For Everyone?

#1
Okay here is a good question for you, and one that certainly interests me.

Is there a place in the Royal Navy for everyone?

For example, I don't literally mean you'll like it or you'll love it. I simply mean - if someone says you won't suit the navy, is that necessarily incorrect? Of course there are many, many roles in the Navy so what are your opinions and views on this?
 

Ninja_Stoker

War Hero
Moderator
#5
Is there a place in the Royal Navy for everyone?
If there was, we wouldn't bother with a joining process to select those best suited.

In all seriousness, it genuinely isn't for everyone - that's why no-one is obliged to apply, those who do, can withdraw their application at any stage during selection and new joiners are free to leave from week four to week twenty-six.
 

slim

War Hero
#6
If there was, we wouldn't bother with a joining process to select those best suited.

In all seriousness, it genuinely isn't for everyone - that's why no-one is obliged to apply, those who do, can withdraw their application at any stage during selection and new joiners are free to leave from week four to week twenty-six.
Wish we had internet in 1963 when I joined. it was 1985 when I left after discovering that the RN was not for me after all :D
 

Madden96

Lantern Swinger
#9
PRE-EDIT Version: There is a place in the military as a whole for everyone, a lot of civilian job titles can be found in all areas of the military; Police, Pilot, Paramedic, Doctor, Engineer, etc... but each military service offers it's own uniqueness that may not be suitable for some, that includes the Royal Navy (hence why many would opt for the Army, or RAF). i.e would you rather be

Although, while there is a place in the military as a whole for everyone, the military is not exactly for everyone. Many can not cope with being away from family for 6, or longer. Many are scared of the dangers, despite the old ''you'd have more chance dying on your way to work, never mind at work''. Many simply don't pass the tests as well. Many just want the simple civy life and could d without the added extras being in the military bring (whether it be good or bad). Then there are those who don't agree with the military full stop.

Also, to answer your last part of the question - no it is not incorrect. If I had an irreversible fear of water and went to AFCO the Navy fellas would show me the door, and chase me out with a bucket of water if I refused to leave.
Hope this helps.
M96
No, it's not incorrect. While the Royal Navy offer many roles that are similar to what civy world offers, not everyone is; 1) interested in the Navy, or 2) can pass the tests for the Navy to get in.

Another point is personal circumstances... my friend came back home from the Army training because he did not believe he could cope with being away from family for 6 months or even over when sent out on operations. Understandable really, the military in general is a massive personal commitment and it's not always easy to leave loved ones.

There are probably more reasons why some may think, or get told that the Navy (or military in general) is not for them...

Hope this helps.

M96
 

janner

MIA
Book Reviewer
#10
M96 why don't you and Rum&Rations set up you own Forum, you could message each other advice based on a complete lack of experience in what you are talking about.
Many jobs outside of the Forces face stress and danger on a daily basis, one thinks of Firefighters and Police Officers.
Your last paragraph is not worth commenting on, although I suspect Ninja may rise to the occasion.
I appreciate that you are trying to help people, but it helps more if you restrict your advice to things that you are qualified to comment on. This has been pointed out to Rum&Rations already.
Good luck with you application.
 
#11
Didn't there use to be a recruiting slogan, with an almost inevitable add-on?

"There's a place for YOU in today's Royal Navy................mine!"
 

Madden96

Lantern Swinger
#12
PRE-EDIT version: Rubbish! How can you/can you not be 'qualified' to tell some that there is/isn't a place in the Navy for everyone. Yes, some civy jobs are dangerous, but I was giving reasons, very valid reasons, as to why some would still prefer not to join. All coming from the horses mouth.
Yes, some civy jobs are dangerous, but I was giving reasons, very valid reasons, as to why some would still prefer not to join. All coming from the horses mouth. (those being people I have spoken to on why they do not want to join the services).
 
#13
Rubbish! How can you/can you not be 'qualified' to tell some that there is/isn't a place in the Navy for everyone. Yes, some civy jobs are dangerous, but I was giving reasons, very valid reasons, as to why some would still prefer not to join. All coming from the horses mouth.
Second time you've quoted this horses mouth, who is this horse and what experience do they have?

It's always dodgy ground when you rely on anecdotal evidence and then pass it on as a "gen dit" and to answer your question on "how can you not be qualified" to answer a question. Reading books or listening to someone elses dits does not enable you to pass on advice, offer an opinion maybe, but not give a definitive answer. How can you possibly state there is a role for everyone if you've not even experienced it yourself?

I've flown in aircraft but it doesn't make me a pilot or give me the knowledge to comment on aircrew training or their career paths.
 

Madden96

Lantern Swinger
#14
That is my opinion... that there is a role in the military for everyone... although my opinion is also that the military is not for everyone. - however, that is also not just opinion as you hear people say it all the time.

Also sorry but your last part of your response doesn't deserve a proper response...
 
#15
Second time you've quoted this horses mouth, who is this horse and what experience do they have?

It's always dodgy ground when you rely on anecdotal evidence and then pass it on as a "gen dit" and to answer your question on "how can you not be qualified" to answer a question. Reading books or listening to someone elses dits does not enable you to pass on advice, offer an opinion maybe, but not give a definitive answer. How can you possibly state there is a role for everyone if you've not even experienced it yourself?

I've flown in aircraft but it doesn't make me a pilot or give me the knowledge to comment on aircrew training or their career paths.
teeth arms.jpg Here He is. Experience in the Army by the look of Him...:rolleyes:
 
#16
That is my opinion... that there is a role in the military for everyone... although my opinion is also that the military is not for everyone. - however, that is also not just opinion as you hear people say it all the time.

Also sorry but your last part of your response doesn't deserve a proper response...
Your first paragraph tends to contradict itself, and your response to my response that doesn't deserve a response, you've responded to!
 

Madden96

Lantern Swinger
#17
Look there are roles out there in the military to attract a wide range of people - hence why there is, more or less, a role for everyone. As some Reservists at my campus jokingly put it ''anything but a porn star'' - Although you can't ignore the fact that some just 100% are not interested in the military side of things. Hence why it's not for everyone.
 
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#18
That is my opinion... that there is a role in the military for everyone... although my opinion is also that the military is not for everyone. - however, that is also not just opinion as you hear people say it all the time.

Also sorry but your last part of your response doesn't deserve a proper response...
Unfortunately since the role for STC was removed those with a low IQ are not being admitted.
 

Madden96

Lantern Swinger
#20
Oh well it's been interesting. Shame just because I am not in something means I know nothing, despite the research I put in. I would never comment on something where I had no confidence in my knowledge in the subject. But this is one I can answer in confidence and stick to my guns on.

I thought it was just ARRSE where the brain cells were few. ;) see you all around.
 

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