A New Home Secretary?

Who, given the chance, would you vote for as Home Secretary?


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As for Maggie on the Telly and the rejoice message I think its probably the first time she'd been able to sleep for months with the state of the 'Task Force' that went out there.

They were lucky----- the Argie airforce nearly decimated them but screwed up dropping the bombs below the set altitude and the fuses didn't arm. The Exocet missiles they had no effective weapon against them.
The Vulcan long range bomber saga . No AEW aircraft for long range air cover. Overalls and Number eights that melted in heat .
As for the motley ships they sent out what a collection -the next best thing to scrap yard challenge.
However as Brits--we over came and did the biz.
 

Skunkmiester

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higthepig said:
Skunkmeister,im amazed about how little you know and how little you understand,such an arrogant attitude if no one agrees with you,the falklands was all about Our Soil,was it really?You should read your history books, i agree with nozzer,was it not her that withdrew the Endurance,i lost a lot of friends down there ,i for one will never forgive her,and you can read into that what you like.
So Hig, I take it that anyone that has a different point of view to yourself knows nothing about the subject, is arrogant and understands nothing? Funny cause as I understand it every bloke that came back from that campaign speaks with pride as to what he did and utmost pride when talking about those that didnt make it back. I also remember pretty much all of the country getting behind the government as to what they were doing and why they did it and that it was only the scroaty little socialists that wanted us to put our tail between our legs and give up the islands without a fight.

You talk about the Falkland Islands as if it was a mistake and that we shouldn't have pulled off one of the most impressive military acts in a long time. One that did surprise the world a) That we actually bothered, and b) that we actually pulled it off (although it was touch and go at times).

I'm pretty sure that there are more than a few people that were actually there that would take issue with your views.
 

Geoff_Wessex

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BBC is a bit late to update its website on this, but Charles Clark has just put forward a plan to the effect that "Foreign nationals convicted of any offence can EXPECT to be deported". Obviously a lot of problems with some countries - the Human Rights Court would come down on the UK like a ton of bricks if we sent people back to Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Sudan etc - but definitely a move in the right direction. It will apparently include EU nationals, previously untouchable. "Horse bolted" and "Stable door" come to mind, but it has to be the right way forward. Tories will probably back it. If the LibDems don't then they will lose a lot of votes. It also eases the path to ID Cards, though. End of argument, I think.

Payrises in the Navy.... I noted a posting about it never happening under Labour, but 1970 saw the most dramatic pay changes the services ever had..... (as well as getting rid of the Tot). It introduced a huge percentage payrise but, quite sensibly, got people to pay for their food and accommodation when ashore and gave us the choice. Labour Govt - Wilson as PM, Healey as Defence Sec. There was another decent payrise in 1979 - before Thatcher. Two major naval defence cuts were definitely Labour - cancellation of a CVA in 1967 and reduction of Polaris fleet from 5 to 4 boats in 68, both - IMHO - the right move at the time. It's difficult to pick out who did what anyway - the MOD plods on at its own pace whatever the Govt of the day.

And (from another posting) what are those "seven" wars that Labour have 'got us into'? The First Gulf War and the Bosnia thing were under the Tories, leaving us with Iraq and..... what? Sierra Leone?
 

come_the_day

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Interesting to see Minge Campbell's view that Prescott's situation is an entirely private matter. I don't agree simply because Fat Boy is on film preaching morality during the Major years. If he'd kept his mouth shut I would be wishing him well for being able to hoodwink anybody other than his wife into a relationship. Back to Minge - is he doing some preparatory damage control?
 

Geoff_Wessex

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come_the_day said:
Interesting to see Minge Campbell's view that Prescott's situation is an entirely private matter. I don't agree simply because Fat Boy is on film preaching morality during the Major years. If he'd kept his mouth shut I would be wishing him well for being able to hoodwink anybody other than his wife into a relationship. Back to Minge - is he doing some preparatory damage control?
Crazy innit? Prescott's the Deputy Prime Minister fer gawd's sake..... yet he shows a complete lack of judgement, lack of morals and lack of sense! It's not as if he's even competent in his Environment role - his Office - "ODPM" - recently approved planning permission in Brighton for a football ground and yet the local opposition has made legal mincemeat of and the whole issue is back in the courts - after 6 years!
 

Skunkmiester

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They managed to impeach a US President for less (blowjob). Yet this runt of a deputy PM thinks that it is private business and that we should turn a blind eye.

There is only one act of terrorism that I would condone, and that is if some sneaky bugger managed to blow up 10 Downing street during a cabinet meeting....whilst Cherie was sitting on the bog.

Now that would be an act of 'bloody good effort'.


Shame the real terrorists only attack innocent people. If they had managed to kill Blair and his Cabinet then at least no innocent life would have been lost.
 
Geoff_Wessex said:
come_the_day said:
Interesting to see Minge Campbell's view that Prescott's situation is an entirely private matter. I don't agree simply because Fat Boy is on film preaching morality during the Major years. If he'd kept his mouth shut I would be wishing him well for being able to hoodwink anybody other than his wife into a relationship. Back to Minge - is he doing some preparatory damage control?
Crazy innit? Prescott's the Deputy Prime Minister fer gawd's sake..... yet he shows a complete lack of judgement, lack of morals and lack of sense! It's not as if he's even competent in his Environment role - his Office - "ODPM" - recently approved planning permission in Brighton for a football ground and yet the local opposition has made legal mincemeat of and the whole issue is back in the courts - after 6 years!
Two Jags (Two Sh*gs has bee suggested as more appropriate) main job is to protect TB from internal flack so the fact he screws up the rest of his job is perhaps not that surprising. If he had not brayed so much for Tory blood when one of their lot had been found out for trouser snake trouble I would not be that bothered but personally I cannot stand that level of hypocrassy, if it was good for the Tories then it must be good for Nu Labor. Prescott must go and in as much disgrace as possible.

Peter
 
I have no argument at all of those who have a different point of view to mine,ilost very close friends down the falklands,pissing up oppos,and whose families my wife and i are still in touch with today,Yes i dont deny victory was ours and im very proud of the boys that went,but in my view it could have been prevented,some american senator said it was two bald men fighting over a comb,but without their help would we have won?Thats debatable, it just seems to me that we should change our point of view,rejoice rejoice sickened me ,perhaps some world leader in the future will have the guts to say, It is with great sadness that i have to say we won the war,rejoice over the carnage and death that went on i think not. And as Oscar Wilde once said, someday they will declare a war and nobody will turn up.
 

CheefTiff

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Skunkmiester said:
higthepig said:
Skunkmeister,im amazed about how little you know and how little you understand,such an arrogant attitude if no one agrees with you,the falklands was all about Our Soil,was it really?You should read your history books, i agree with nozzer,was it not her that withdrew the Endurance,i lost a lot of friends down there ,i for one will never forgive her,and you can read into that what you like.
So Hig, I take it that anyone that has a different point of view to yourself knows nothing about the subject, is arrogant and understands nothing? Funny cause as I understand it every bloke that came back from that campaign speaks with pride as to what he did and utmost pride when talking about those that didnt make it back. I also remember pretty much all of the country getting behind the government as to what they were doing and why they did it and that it was only the scroaty little socialists that wanted us to put our tail between our legs and give up the islands without a fight.

You talk about the Falkland Islands as if it was a mistake and that we shouldn't have pulled off one of the most impressive military acts in a long time. One that did surprise the world a) That we actually bothered, and b) that we actually pulled it off (although it was touch and go at times).

I'm pretty sure that there are more than a few people that were actually there that would take issue with your views.
I for one, an old fart who enjoyed his little hols in the Falklands. I remember going back again in 83 on patreol and had the opportunity to walk acros the islands, camping at night wherever we stopped.

My memory post war is this " What the fcuk did we want to fight for this for" I'm afraid IMHO the place wasn't worth a single life and yes I know the 1800 occupants were British Nationals - but we could have just brought them home.

I remember staying with a family in Port Stephen in 83, the daughter of 18(who all the stokers of course wanted to shag) had never been out of sight of their setllement, and her dad had been to Port Stanley once ......in 1955. These people were so worldly naive, an Argie aircrafty had crashed across the bay the previous year. They hadn't even bothered to go look ! It didn't matter to them. Their nearest neighbour was on the end of a CB radio - what very strange people leading a very strange life. Each to his own I guess !
 

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