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9/11 Ten years on

NotmeChief

Banned
So, the fact that the building was on fire anyway doesn't count then? The fire had no chance of spreading to where they could have potentially been when they went back in there?

Anyone who runs back into a burning building to rescue his fellow man, if he knows it is going to collapse or not, is performing a heroic act.

It's what they are trained to do, that is their job, they enter burning building and rescue people that is why they are called 'Fire and Rescue' and the people called 'Firemen' doh numbnuts.
 

NotmeChief

Banned
There were a large number of Firefighters who took a decision at a time when they knew it could come down to go back in and try again, knowing full well that it was very likely they wouldn't be walking out again.


Of course, silly me, you were there at the time, they said to you 'goodbye mlp I'm going in and probably wont be coming out'. What bollox.

You would go into a blazing AMS to save a college not thinking that, if anything passed through your mind it wouldn't be about not getting out, it would be 'I've got get him, I've got to get him'.
 
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NotmeChief

Banned
Worst comment I have read by far. Yes it's their job but by far they went way beyond what there pay cheque required of them.

Nothing but respect for them - all of them.

I haven't said anything about not having respect or admiration for them, of course I have, but lets not talk bullshit.
 

TrialsLife

Lantern Swinger
It's what they are trained to do, that is their job, they enter burning building and rescue people that is why they are called 'Fire and Rescue' and the people called 'Firemen' doh numbnuts.

Of course, silly me, you were there at the time, they said to you 'goodbye mlp I'm going in and probably wont be coming out'. What bollox.

You would go into a blazing AMS to save a college not thinking that, if anything passed through your mind it wouldn't be about not getting out, it would be 'I've got get him, I've got to get him'.

I haven't said anything about not having respect or admiration for them, of course I have, but lets not talk bullshit.

Can you try and learn how to multi quote you tit? Its annoying enough having to read your posts without the triple postings.

A firemans job, is to perform his/her work whilst minimizing the risks to themselves. If they choose to go into a building, where the risk is sky high, knowing that they might not come back it is a heroic act. Their job is to save lives, they're no good to anybody if their dead!
 

NotmeChief

Banned
******** said:
Can you try and learn how to multi quote you tit? Its annoying enough having to read your posts without the triple postings.

I'll post how I want not how some nobber wants.
 

pg55555

Lantern Swinger
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The firemen would NOT have been considering that the building would fall. That was a great shock to the structural engineers, authorities, etc..... that the building would fail so quickly.

YES, they knew the buildings might partially collapse after some time and might later fail, but they did NOT go in there in the knowledge of what was going to happen. AND, as firemen they would have known that even with their training things could go wrong in a burning, damaged building which could kill them - they knew they were, yet again, putting themselves at risk.

HAVING SAID THAT, all firemen risk their lives on a daily basis, and almost everyone has a great fear of death by fire (actually normally asphixiation) - I certainly do. I would find it very difficult to do that job, even though I know that today's training is very strict.

The US have grasped hold of the "heroic" aspect of the firemen (and police) because they want to take something positive away from the tradgedy. It's not exactly propaganda, more a need for reassurance, but it is not totally honest.

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NotmeChief

Banned
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The firemen would NOT have been considering that the building would fall. That was a great shock to the structural engineers, authorities, etc..... that the building would fail so quickly.

YES, they knew the buildings might partially collapse after some time and might later fail, but they did NOT go in there in the knowledge of what was going to happen. AND, as firemen they would have known that even with their training things could go wrong in a burning, damaged building which could kill them - they knew they were, yet again, putting themselves at risk.

HAVING SAID THAT, all firemen risk their lives on a daily basis, and almost everyone has a great fear of death by fire (actually normally asphixiation) - I certainly do. I would find it very difficult to do that job, even though I know that today's training is very strict.

The US have grasped hold of the "heroic" aspect of the firemen (and police) because they want to take something positive away from the tradgedy. It's not exactly propaganda, more a need for reassurance, but it is not totally honest.

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The first decent post on here.
 
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guestm

Guest
Having watched a programme based on the firefighters, after the collapse of the south tower, a section of them who had made it out took a decision and re-entered the north tower. This section DID know that collapse was possible and that it was unlikely they were coming out. This was shown on handheld camera footage of the radio conversation.

To say they were just doing their job is churlish, events on that scale are hardly in their training package.
 

Waspie

War Hero
"I had you all on a bite and you all fell for it" jolly japes after all you are such a joker :D

SJRM_RN, I too sit waiting for the, what is now, standard response from NMC when challenged. Not too bad for such a prolific poster and all before puberty.
 

NotmeChief

Banned
Not the old, 'I won't call you names, I will just pick you up on a typo and try to get some one-up-manship that way'.
 

frogman007

War Hero
SJRM and I have had our moments but I fully back him today. NMC you're unbelievable with your comments! With the word hero banded about to morons like Rooney and Co I find it hard to believe you can't see these firefighters(/men/& rescue) as true heroes?? You're either after a simple rise or quite plainly a dick? Tend to think it's the latter.
 

diesel

Lantern Swinger
Is this the fellah that complained about the 'sick jokes' after the Jap Tsunami. Now he doesn't seem to accept the heroic's displayed on 9/11. Self contradictory?
or :confused2:

Also... even if you did have a 'college' in the AMS, it would be a very small one, why would one risk his life to rescue it? :dontknow:
 
I have just returned from New York. When there I visited St Peters Church at the sight of the World Trade Centre. This became a rest centre for the rescue workers during 9/11. It is still a working church but has many reminders from that awful day. 343 Firefighters lost their lives that day. If your in NY you must go there. If you come out with dry eyes - then you have no soul or feelings.
 
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