771 NAS Rescue MSC NAPOLI's Ship's Company (18/1/07)

Seadog

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BBC News

Twenty-six crew have been rescued from a damaged British container ship in the English Channel 50 miles (80km) off the Lizard in Cornwall.
The crew of the MSC Napoli abandoned ship after it got into difficulties. No-one suffered any major injuries.

The 62,000-tonne vessel took in water through a hole in its side as it made its way through the Channel.

Two helicopters from RNAS Culdrose airlifted all the crew in the French co-ordinated rescue.
This article doesn't mention 771 but it was obvious from the BBC Six O'Clock News. Looked like a hairy business, hats off.
 

chieftiff

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Pilots and mad aircrew diver certainly earned their pay today!!!! Idiot on Sky tried to convince us it was a Coastguard Helicopter, needless to say it wasn't.
 
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BBC said they landed at RAF Culddrose! But at least they got the Squadron right when they interviewed the CO of 771. BZ lads.

Semper Strenuissima.
 

noemis

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Blimey!!! The beeb actually covered this before Big Brother!!

Can't quite believe it!!

BZ lads!!
 
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chieftiff said:
Pilots and mad aircrew diver certainly earned their pay today!!!! Idiot on Sky tried to convince us it was a Coastguard Helicopter, needless to say it wasn't.
BBC were better tonight as their presenter was standing right next to the cab, nicely framing the "Royal Navy" logo. He even talked about RN SAR Divers.

Great rescue in the finest traditions of the service.
 
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Excellent work Navy!!

Interview of the diver typical hero very modest and it was his day off!!

Typical of today British registered and foreign crew. Except for the Scots lad.
 
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Bravo Zulu to all our lads involved. (Negative perspiration - just did it!)
Glad to see/hear that all references to the rescue team on BBC were accentuated as ROYAL Navy. Perhaps they have taken note of my bleat to them about not using the full title! (some hopes).

2BM
 

Seadog

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Sky managed an interview with the CO of 771 NAS with what looked like the crews of the two SAR cabs lined up. Must have seen chieftiff's post above.

Good point the BBC made about the SAR divers. We want the BBC (and all media) on our side.

2BM wrote
Bravo Zulu to all our lads involved.
You know it was all 'lads' involved 2BM or do you just not congratulate women?
 
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Seadog said:
Sky managed an interview with the CO of 771 NAS with what looked like the crews of the two SAR cabs lined up. Must have seen chieftiff's post above.

Good point the BBC made about the SAR divers. We want the BBC (and all media) on our side.

2BM wrote
Bravo Zulu to all our lads involved.
You know it was all 'lads' involved 2BM or do you just not congratulate women?
I am sure his 'lads' was not gender specific

Well done though, but of course that is what we expect.
 
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'Lads' I thought the English language no longer contained masculine or feminine - well the great unwashed refere to everybody as 'guys' .......weird

Well done to all the 'lads' (and cos I'm an 'awld bugger' who don't understand these things - 'lasses' too) of the team - no matter which part!

Looks like the crew panicked and abandoned ship too soon, made the job harder! After all your ship is your best life boat!
 
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safewalrus said:
Looks like the crew panicked and abandoned ship too soon, made the job harder! After all your ship is your best life boat!
I know that what we are always taught, and I am very confident it is true, but I think sometimes on the ship in bad conditions it does look different.
 

Seadog

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Safewalrus wrote
Looks like the crew panicked and abandoned ship too soon, made the job harder! After all your ship is your best life boat!
Really? The cadet interviewed spoke of a "crack" in the hull. Given the nature of cracks and the unannounced nature and speed of their propagation the old man probably gave the right order. A crack isn't just a hole letting in water that can be pumped overboard. The Captain would have considered the opinion of the Chief Engineer (a man or woman who knows something about the strength of materials, fatigue failure and material stress. Do you?

If the hull failure went catastrophic the crew wouldn't have a chance to get off in an orderly fashion. Just because it didn't doesn't make it the wrong decision. As you are a former MN Chief Officer, I thought you'd be more sympathetic.
 

Seadog

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The MCA held a press conference this afternoon chaired by Robin Middleton, the Secretary of State's Representative for Maritime Salvage and Intervention. He said that Napoli had a vertical crack in the shell plate on each side.

Do you still think the crew panicked Chief Officer safewalrus?

BBC News

Meanwhile, it has emerged that the ship previously ran aground off Singapore in 2001.
The suggestion being that this is the second time Napoli has ran aground. It isn't. It has been beached this time, not the same thing. Furthermore it was owned by a different company when it grounded. Journos! :evil:

The MAIB have begun a preliminary investigation.
 

Seadog

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Seadog wrote
The MAIB have begun a preliminary investigation.
The MAIB have progressed to a Full Investigation. I'll post their report when it's published. I wonder if they'll agree with safewalrus who said

Looks like the crew panicked and abandoned ship too soon, made the job harder!
 

Seadog

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The MAIB's report has been published.

As he started to return to the ECR, the tank top forward of the main engine appeared to open up across the ship (Figure 2), and a “wall of oily water†shot upwards before cascading down across the pump flat and bottom plates. The third engineer quickly evacuated the area and returned to the ECR.
After talking to the chief engineer, the master went onto the starboard bridge wing from where he could see that the ship’s side plating directly below the bridge was bulging outwards. He also saw what appeared to be a vertical fracture below the waterline as the ship rolled to port. When similar damage was seen on the port side, the master assessed that MSC Napoli had ‘broken her back’ (Figure 3), and decided to abandon the vessel.
The account of the abandonment paints it as appropriate and professional. I'll need my sensible head on for the technical part.
 
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Seadog said:
The MAIB's report has been published.

As he started to return to the ECR, the tank top forward of the main engine appeared to open up across the ship (Figure 2), and a “wall of oily water†shot upwards before cascading down across the pump flat and bottom plates. The third engineer quickly evacuated the area and returned to the ECR.
After talking to the chief engineer, the master went onto the starboard bridge wing from where he could see that the ship’s side plating directly below the bridge was bulging outwards. He also saw what appeared to be a vertical fracture below the waterline as the ship rolled to port. When similar damage was seen on the port side, the master assessed that MSC Napoli had ‘broken her back’ (Figure 3), and decided to abandon the vessel.
The account of the abandonment paints it as appropriate and professional. I'll need my sensible head on for the technical part.


Interesting reading....ty
 
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Interesting (well, actually, irritating) that the only part of the Report that has proper paragraph marking is the Noggie bit. What price JSP101!

From the Synopsis, para 3 (not marked) 2nd dot; presumably there must be other vessels at sea in this structural state. Is there no retrospective safety notification system?

From the Synopsis, para 3 (not marked) 5th dot; economic imperatives are a wonderful thing.

A slight aside: I asked on another Forum how that rescue would have been executed in the absence of a SAR Diver. Strangely, I received no sensible answers.
 

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