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2 hr Drive and 15 miles on my journey

Nutty said:
phil1972 said:
I regret to inform you GR that you are in a very small minority on here to have experienced protesting against military power. It does appear to be a commonly held belief that everyone has the right to protest, and we will defend anyones right to do such, just don't prevent anyone else from getting on with their lawful business until you have persauded the majority to make that activity illegal.

If the only means by which you expect to get the law changed is to break other laws you are showing contempt for the rest of society and should be dealt with accordingly. It would appear that some protestors believe in democracy when it suits and demand their human rights etc, but when the majority do not concur on a matter they believe in profoundly they disregard democracy and take the law into their own hands. Were the military to do the same it would be called a coup.

Fortunately the British Military have more sense and discipline.


Phil

Does that apply to the Country Side Alliance, protests including assaulting Police Officer in Parliment Square.

National Farmers Union and National Road Haulage Industry blocking roads and slow moving convoys in protest at fuel price rises.

I see a protesters LINK here "Country Side Alliance" and "National Farmers Union", quick get MI5 possible terrorist cells.

Animanl rights protestors objecting to lorry loads of 1 week old animals being driving from UK to Greece in open slat side lorries for 70 odd hours with no stops or water in sub zero winter tempretures. Then being kicked off, yes booted like footballs off the lorries at the other end.

Parents blocking roads outside courts when some objectional offender appears in court.

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Nutty

Interesting points nutty - hadn't thought of those comparisons.

As you know Phil I've never made a secret of my brief flirtation with the peace camp and similar activities. In terms of actively participating this period probably only lasted for a couple of years in my 20s though I remained vehemently anti-nuclear for a long time afterwards and still am in many ways the main reasons being that I don't trust any government to produce the materials for them safely nor with the power to deploy them even if that power is mainly wielded in the form of deterrence rather than agression.

I've lived through times when governments made changes to how and where it would permit people to protest so I'm afraid I regard strictly abiding by the law in this area with slightly less reverence than you do Phil - but thank goodness we live in a society where its still possible for us to coexist. I think we all need to fight to preserve that too.
 

josiecats

War Hero
dondon said:
josiecats said:
think summer time is the worst..
it takes me 45 mins to drive to my mums..(well lite speed anyway!!)yet in the summer can take up to 2hours or more... realy gets me mad....... 2 kids ,, 2 dogs all going nuts in the car.. so up goes the music... up goes the temper up goes the missery..........lol......... so now i just tak loads of drink and sweets and toys... well least we get a day out,,, maybe in the car but we are stil out,,,lol


Stay calm "josie" , think of Bruce , loved your phots in the gallery of you in your younger years , guessed straight away that it was you , see ya later ,
lol Don.... i sooooo did not put those pics in..it was done to tease me... :oops:
 

finknottle

Banned
Interesting responses to my post on page one, all I can say in reply is that these protesters are doing something about a policy that they disagree with when all you lot can do is whine and gripe on an internet forum you should take a leaf from their book, action speaks louder than words.
 
Phil

On 30th March you said:

Quote "If the only means by which you expect to get the law changed is to break other laws you are showing contempt for the rest of society and should be dealt with accordingly. It would appear that some protestors believe in democracy when it suits and demand their human rights etc, but when the majority do not concur on a matter they believe in profoundly they disregard democracy and take the law into their own hands."Unquote

I then asked you if this applied to the National Farmers Union, Road Haulage Association, Country Side Alliance, Parents out side various courts and Animal rights protestors. You have singularly failed to answer the question was it to hard.

Or like most, is it only applied to protestors you do not like?

In anticipation

Nutty
 
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