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‘ I Wouldn't Want to Press the Nuclear Button for Boris Johnson’

cjg375

Lantern Swinger
Reads to me like someone who doesn’t like the current government writing an article attacking them in a halfway gentle way, using a previous position of authority he held as a description of why he has reservations about the government.

I know an officer who got to command a Ballistic Missile submarine is someone who should command respect but I don’t know why getting into that position should make his point of view any more relevant to me than anyone else’s.

It’s kind of like when celebrities try to tell me which way to vote and what I should think. I just think “who the hell are you and why should I care what you think?” If any one of my previous COs came up with this junk I wouldn’t give it consideration just because they commanded a ship. I’d read it but the fact they commanded a ship wouldn’t make it true or not. It’s just their POV.
 
Strikes me as being a bit too sad that a former bomber CO turned academic has to tout adverts for a periodical within his "Shan't be playing this game no more so there" article at Post #1

<<...Each commanding officer, before they take command, must therefore be satisfied that they have confidence and faith in the political control of nuclear weapons to launch them based solely on that order; that the orders they will follow are not subject to any interests other than extreme national interest.

SUBSCRIBE TO BYLINE TIMES FOR AS LITTLE AS £29 A YEAR

They have to make that judgement, probably the most serious any officer in any of the UK’s services ever has to make, in advance. It is too late to leave the decision until the moment the order arrives. Every commanding officer assumes that burden in the knowledge of the possible consequences. Each one takes it for different reasons. Not one takes it lightly...>>

Just imagine the CND site outside CSB - The OiC Peace Campers warmly welcoming him with open, ermm...




















...legs?
 
About the Author - from linked in

Andy Corbett Teaching Fellow at Kings College London

I am a Teaching Fellow in International Relations and Security with considerable experience of international security policy formulation and fully developed post-graduate research, teaching and mentoring skills. My operational skills and strategic expertise were developed during a career in submarines, concentrating on delivery of operational programmes and training, and in the international policy arena, focusing on initiation and delivery of international strategic change programmes against fixed deadlines and performance criteria. I developed my research skills throughout that career, culminating in a part-time PHD completed whilst in Naval service.

My research interests focus on the role of hard power in the 21st century:
• How does this relate to the norms-based environment in which we would like to think we live and how is it exploited by modern liberal democratic states and their international structures?
• If deterrence is the ultimate expression of hard power, how is it exploited as a tool in the multi-polar environment of the 21st Century?

I am passionate about the transformative effect of education, and the importance of genuinely informed public debate on issues key to the health of our democratic societies. I look to contribute to the education of the next generation of decision-makers and to the quality of that debate in areas in which I may be able to offer some expertise.

For a little more background See also
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/uk-d...andy-corbett?trk=portfolio_article-card_title

and https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/07/...al-navy-trident-submarine-commander-assesses/

then

(As Boris said to Dom - Ye Gods, academia has turned another of those forces pensioners into a pinko! )
 

Biker Buster

Lantern Swinger
I knew him. His own perception of self worth was far greater than his ability to deliver.

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AmyQuinn

Newbie
Reads to me like someone who doesn’t like the current government writing an article attacking them in a halfway gentle way, using a previous position of authority he held as a description of why he has reservations about the government.

I know an officer who got to command a Ballistic Missile submarine is someone who should command respect but I don’t know why getting into that position should make his point of view any more relevant to me than anyone else’s.

It’s kind of like when celebrities try to tell me which way to vote and what I should think. I just think “who the hell are you and why should I care what you think?” If any one of my previous COs came up with this junk I wouldn’t give it consideration just because they commanded a ship. I’d read it but the fact they commanded a ship wouldn’t make it true or not. It’s just their POV.
exactly, that's what I thought of
 

SONAR-BENDER

War Hero
I'm afraid he is coming across as a 'typical' time served, wants to get on but didn't, wardroom ****** - and I would be more than happy to say that to his face. In fact I hope he is informed of or even reads this post.

He was happy enough to take the kudos and pay that went with the job and responsibility at the time. he seems typical of those senior officers who does/says nothing for the troops/Service while serving, then once outside and with no power to affect change, commences transmitting.

If only they'd speak up while serving....... though in this case he'd be out on his arse, and rightly so.
 

Biker Buster

Lantern Swinger
I'm afraid he is coming across as a 'typical' time served, wants to get on but didn't, wardroom ****** - and I would be more than happy to say that to his face. In fact I hope he is informed of or even reads this post.

He was happy enough to take the kudos and pay that went with the job and responsibility at the time. he seems typical of those senior officers who does/says nothing for the troops/Service while serving, then once outside and with no power to affect change, commences transmitting.

If only they'd speak up while serving....... though in this case he'd be out on his arse, and rightly so.
Succinct and accurate.

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