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No the thread is not mislaid from 'lils.
My great grandfather was in the merchant navy - Captain with the Donaldson Line, joined around 1910 and reired in 1950. The sword attached was a ...
- 25-05-12, 10:33 #1Senior Member
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Can you identify this sword?
Hi,
No the thread is not mislaid from 'lils.
My great grandfather was in the merchant navy - Captain with the Donaldson Line, joined around 1910 and reired in 1950. The sword attached was a bequest from him to my mother. The two stories are that it was his own, or alternatively he was given it from a surrendering Italian officer.
Can anyone identify it please? It looks like an RN one without the gold leaf but I suspect that may have been lost over time. For a merchant navy captain, had he served in the RNR I doubt if he would have bought a sword especially if a wartime commission. I do not think he served in the Med, a lot was told about trips on the Arctic convoys - few Italians there.
So, any thought ladies and gentlemen?
Thanks
PBS
25-05-12, 12:25 #2With the slight curve it's not a naval officers sword, curved swords like that are usually army (especially cavalry).
Sh1t shot, pumping slop.
25-05-12, 12:30 #3This site has some similar ones German Swords especially No's GIS-90111, GIS-01 & GIS-12
Sh1t shot, pumping slop.
25-05-12, 12:55 #4Doesn't look British.
However very old RN swords could be curved. I recall one example used by a chap on course with me at Whaley (something from his family, probably Victorian). Confused the GIs because either the hilt or the point would be out of line with all the others.
When the wimmin were given gold stripes an admiral remarked to me that because of their hips their swords would stick out and get in other people's way.Edmund Burke: 'Wars may be deferred .. but they cannot be wholly avoided .. to purchase present quiet, at the price of future security, is .. a cowardice of the most base and degrading nature."
Nelson: "You should hate a Frenchman as you do the devil".
25-05-12, 14:08 #5PBS
Could you take some close-ups of the detail on the sword, please, in case there is something recognisable there?
23-07-12, 15:32 #6Senior Member
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Here you go Soleil, sorry for the delay.
PBS
23-07-12, 20:00 #7PBSB
Compare your sword's fouled anchor with that shown in the article "By Jove! Updates?!" at Man the Capstan – Reenactment Blog for British Nautical History

The absence of any crown above the anchor leans towards ruling it out as an RN sword.
25-07-12, 04:43 #8Junior Member
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Anything engraved on the blade? There should be the maker's name somewhere.
Mark
25-07-12, 09:04 #9Senior Member
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Hi,
Nothing engraved on the blade. The anchor on the hilt means navy of some sort. I dont know when the Italians dropped teh Royal from their Navy.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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