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Discuss Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated? in The Fleet on Navy Net; As a pongo i have seen the state of some of our younger toms coming out of basic training. It shocks me that the sproggy little sh1ts only have to attempt the fitness tests now ...
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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    As a pongo i have seen the state of some of our younger toms coming out of basic training. It shocks me that the sproggy little sh1ts only have to attempt the fitness tests now when in training. However when they get to field force units they have to pass the fitness tests or else. We have a policy that if you fail your APFA you have to retake it within 1 week. This is to give those who had hangovers or illness a chance. They then go on remedial training every morning(and i mean every morning including weekends) at 0700 hrs until they can pass 2 APFA's in 2 days. The message has got out and it seems to work.
    Switching to the gender fair fitness test. BOLLOX!!!!!! Until we get gender fair pay, the gender fair fitness tests are a cop out by management. If a splitter gets paid the same as her male counterpart from the same trade group they should do the same fitness test.

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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    Out of interest what are the fitness tests being used by you guys?
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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    Instead of galloping around a flat track, wouldn't it make more sense to run up and down stairs ? After I had my by-pass, the test for fitness to leave hospital was a 20 minutes walking up and down the emergency stairs.
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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    I'd hope that service personel of any coloured uniform could complete a post bypass cardiac fitness test!!!

    Having said that Ranulph fiennes ran a marathon on each continent (I think) post bypass.

    Back to the "youth of today" when I was in, it was a mark of shame to be at the back of the pack never mind dipping phys completely.

    The COs christmas present to the unit, a 7 mile xcountry was always the day before leave and every last man in camp had been ashore the night before.......Most returning to camp only hours/minutes previous to the route brief.

    everyone still did it, green faced and puking wifebeater/babycham/baileys cocktails all the way round

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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    Just been speaking with some Septics from the USN and they have a career 3 strikes and you're out policy. Fail 3 times in your career and you're a civvy. Sorts out the wasters and makes sure that everyone is fit for ops - radical but might get the message out!

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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    Quote Originally Posted by geoffrey
    If you're in Her Majesty's Armed Forces but you're so fat you can't drag your lardy arse around in the generous times of the RNFT, then IMHO you are a disgrace to the uniform and an embarrassment to the RN.
    Cant agree enough! To be a member of a "fighting force" you need to be physically fit, this also ensures(hopefully) that your mental fitness is of a sound level as well, which could well be tested in this day and age!

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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    Given the amount of matelots who find themselves in theatre on dry land (even in landlocked countries) how can we consider anything to the contrary.

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    Re: Should repeated RNFT failures be dis-rated?

    As well as the physical fitness aspect, there is education on diet and general well being to consider. Everyone enjoys a good drink and kebab every now and then, but when your diet consists of crisps, chocolate and a can of Irn Bru for your breakfast (witnessed first hand) then you can't have too many complaints if you are a 15 stone 5'5" killick wren that resembles a beach ball. The RN needs to become more robust in the pursuit of physical fitness and failing the RNFT for reasons other than genuine medical injuries should warrant the appropriate action.

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    I'm reading a few posts by people saying things like "When I was in" and making out that fitness tests were a biggie. Can't have done much time, chaps and chapesses, because fitness tests outside basic training are a relatively new phenomenon.

    Whilst it is not difficult to run a mile and a half in something less than an hour, I was never particularly drawn to running. Indeed when I did the POLC at Royal Arthur I took great delight in not crippling myself running around in pussers DMS, despite the groans of the PTI and Staff. I don't believe that the RN ever suffered because of my presence and I could swim (a far more aerobic form of exercise) much more efficiently than most of my peers.

    P2L3 is not a disqualifier for Command Course. That's what the BIFF's course is for.

    If you want to run BFT, CFT, Old Uncle Tom Cobbly and All FT - join the freakin Army or RM, but when you croak at a relatively young age despite being able to do all the fitness tests in the world quicker than me, don't say I didn't tell you that being averagely fit was just fine!
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    I came out in 1979,and the mile and a half run was in before then,though for some reason i was never available to do it.

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