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    MOD confirms body parts kept

    BBC News - Soldiers' body parts kept without permission, MoD admits



    WHY??? AD any medical reason??? Not good drills me thinks...
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    Losing a loved one is devastating. Finding out that "body parts" may have been kept (presumably in cold storage) will naturally open old wounds (no pun intended) but I have to say that a tissue sample on a laboratory slide for microscopic analysis is hardly something to fire up the outrage bus. Fair enough, once no longer of use or relevance to an investigation these items (and especially body parts) should be sensitively disposed of and clearly have not but let's keep a sense of proportion.
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    Fair one. But why is it in the public domain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadside View Post
    Losing a loved one is devastating. Finding out that "body parts" may have been kept (presumably in cold storage) will naturally open old wounds (no pun intended) but I have to say that a tissue sample on a laboratory slide for microscopic analysis is hardly something to fire up the outrage bus. Fair enough, once no longer of use or relevance to an investigation these items (and especially body parts) should be sensitively disposed of and clearly have not but let's keep a sense of proportion.
    Shocking - The RMP have never heard of the Human Tissue Act or followed the protocol !

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadside View Post
    Losing a loved one is devastating. Finding out that "body parts" may have been kept (presumably in cold storage) will naturally open old wounds (no pun intended) but I have to say that a tissue sample on a laboratory slide for microscopic analysis is hardly something to fire up the outrage bus. Fair enough, once no longer of use or relevance to an investigation these items (and especially body parts) should be sensitively disposed of and clearly have not but let's keep a sense of proportion.

    Don't you think that the permission of the NOK should have been sought first?

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    I think the only outrage here is the bloody newspaper stirring shit. We are talking DNA slides of the poor sods who've been blown to bits, think about all the remains of soldiers from the first and second world wars that are only now being discovered but will be buried in unmarked graves because no one can identify them, a DNA file will mean this will not happen again. The way the paper reports it you'd think the SIB were hoarding arms and legs, not small pieces of flesh and bone scooped up after a bomb has shredded and totally mingled a couple of soldiers bodies together. Glad I dont have to sort that mess out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wet_blobby View Post
    I think the only outrage here is the bloody newspaper stirring shit. We are talking DNA slides of the poor sods who've been blown to bits, think about all the remains of soldiers from the first and second world wars that are only now being discovered but will be buried in unmarked graves because no one can identify them, a DNA file will mean this will not happen again. The way the paper reports it you'd think the SIB were hoarding arms and legs, not small pieces of flesh and bone scooped up after a bomb has shredded and totally mingled a couple of soldiers bodies together. Glad I dont have to sort that mess out.
    Sorry mate, but if you see the latest reports they ARE actually keeping limbs and whole body parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle View Post
    Don't you think that the permission of the NOK should have been sought first?
    Permission for what? SIB using a tissue sample to identify the poor sod who was blown to bits or the BBC for broadcasting this highly distasteful and disrespectful story that is guaranteed to cause further unnecessary distress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogman007 View Post
    Sorry mate, but if you see the latest reports they ARE actually keeping limbs and whole body parts.
    Please. They aren't hoarding arms and legs. Switch on froggy for fucksake.
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    Some bits have to kept because its a Coroner's case and therefore required for the inquest. Theres also a period of time whereby things like slides and tissue samples have to be retained afterward (sometimes years) ... and because its a Cornoner's case they don't need the families permission. There are exceptions to the rule when things are kept longer than necessary however thats normally because people are being overworked and just about have time to sort out whats coming into the lab without worrying whats going out.

    That being said it doesn't need to be plastered over the National Press and it needs to be handled with dignity and respect.
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