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    One Law for the Lawyers another for....

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    Must admit that report does make me put one foot on the platform of the outrage bus, but without knowing the full story (or having the legal knowledge) am always suspicious of meedja stuff. Even from the usually well-balanced Torygraph.

    Story does pong a bit though.
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    "Qualified as a trainee" to quote the article, that's going some!!
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    The boy received a police caution for the offence , same as most of the rest of us would get. The Bar Council (or suchlike) don't have professional jurisdiction over postmen and van drivers any more than the GMC rule on the fitness of bricklayers to practise. I see no legal double standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WreckerL View Post
    "Qualified as a trainee" to quote the article, that's going some!!
    Like some Recruits who are joining the RN as engineers , Warfare specialists etc. we must be saving a fortune in training. As for barristers I understand that being qualified isn't the same as being licenced to practise so the boy is now in training. Like graduate engineers, until they've spent sometime under the guidance of a grown up and become further qualified they are not going to be building bridges or taking charge of anything significant.

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    I'm aware of the situation Seadog, the oxymoron of qualified trainee just amused me but thanks for the response...smiley thing
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    just a couple of things
    1. he read Mathematics at Pembroke College - surely if he intends to be a barrister it should have been Law
    2. A quote from Judge Dias “You are very young and at the very start of your career, and have no doubt suffered very greatly already through the whole experience of being arrested, taken to the cells,' Would she have been as understanding and sympathetic If the person in question was from a humbler background

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikh View Post
    just a couple of things
    1. he read Mathematics at Pembroke College - surely if he intends to be a barrister it should have been Law
    No, there are two routes to becoming a Barrister.

    One is to read Law at University and then go straight on to the Bar Professional Training Course; the other is to read another subject at University and then do a conversion course, the Graduate Diploma in Law/Common Professional Examination, before going on to the Bar Professional Training Course.

    That this second possibility exists is a real bonus as it means that many Barristers come to the Bar with a very good prior knowledge of some of the areas they will be dealing with. Say, for instance, you had just spent an awful lot of money on a new ship but, whenever your ship deployed, bits kept going wrong; very tiresome ...... If you were to seek redress via the courts, your case would be led by a Barrister from a niche set like Keating Chambers and it is highly likely that he/she would have read Marine Engineering at Uni before doing the conversion course and being called to the Bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guzzler View Post
    Must admit that report does make me put one foot on the platform of the outrage bus, but without knowing the full story (or having the legal knowledge) am always suspicious of meedja stuff. Even from the usually well-balanced Torygraph.

    Story does pong a bit though.

    Well I suggest you take your foot off it then, he was dealt with properly by the police and Cautioned for Possession of Class 'A'. Small amount consistent with personal use and first offence, you'd have to do something very strange inded NOT to be cautioned in any Force area in the country, it's almost mandatory.
    As for keeping his job, that's up to the Bar Council to decide, his trade union basically, nothing to do with the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikh View Post
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    2. A quote from Judge Dias “You are very young and at the very start of your career, and have no doubt suffered very greatly already through the whole experience of being arrested, taken to the cells,' Would she have been as understanding and sympathetic If the person in question was from a humbler background
    Who are you asking? In the reported capacity the Judge's concern is the reputation of the profession and I doubt daddy's position has any bearing on the penalty -not sentence- awarded.

    One can understand without agreement or sympathy.

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