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Discuss 32% of The people have spoken in Current Affairs on Navy Net; Originally Posted by finknottle Simples, ones foreign and ones ours nothing too difficult for me there MLP and as I said as long as they employ our people who pay taxes who cares if they ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle View Post
    Simples, ones foreign and ones ours nothing too difficult for me there MLP and as I said as long as they employ our people who pay taxes who cares if they are British or Thai. Ask those who have been re-employed at the Thai owned steel works in the North East if they give a shit who owns the company.
    Of course they don't care, however you mentioned British industry doing well, as with Nissan, Mini, Tata etc it isn't British other than the workforce.

    SSI have re-distributed around 1800 jobs lost when Corus mothballed the Redcar plant, however SSI also send ALL profit back to Thailand and the whole purpose of the facility is to reduce Thailand's own Steel deficit, the only benefit is those jobs. SSI seized on the opportunity when presented, it's akin to picking at a carcass.

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    Some of the posters have spoken; enough to persuade me a change to the thread title is necessary.

    As for those who didn't vote, it is their right and a way of saying 'none of the above'. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

    After a drubbing for the Limp Dems, Nick Clegg declared himself 'sad'. I agree with his character pen picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRM_RN View Post
    Have you tried to fly in to the US recently? Now, they really know how to do immigration control queues - you think the queues at Heathrow are long? You should try Washington Dulles!
    But the queues in the USA are due to the TSA and their anal retentiveness. The queues at LHR are due to immigration officers deliberately going slow, as soon as the Government said they would sort the problems by adding manpower, the Unions bluff is called and low and behold a strike is called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle View Post
    Don't forget to bib your horn and give the thumbs up in support of the PCS and Unite's NHS workers on the 10th as you drive past them, they will appreciate it.
    hopefully they will appreciate the 2 fingers that they will get from me, the selfish self centered short sighted set of twunts

    moving on somewhat, now that France has decided that a 'spend and spend' government is the order of the day then we will have something to look at and see whether the idea will work or not. interesting that Germany wants to speck to France asap (about debt re-structuring probably and France will need to borrow the money off someone)

    the Greeks have also decided against austerity measures - no surprise there then but tbh who cares....
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    I know for a fact the coal industrie did very well .We trebled output yes trebled were making millions then privatisation came along then everything went tits up budge dod not want to put money in.In fact he took money out and losr millions in the bargain.FACT he sold at least 6 nmillion tonnes at a rediculous price of buy on get one free just so he could get back what he baught it all for then put nothing back in .We the unions aggreed to coal an saturdays and sundays (a thing which they fought for years ).The rail unions fought against what is happening now and the sghipyard (all gone)steel works also gone they fought to keep them open and the government of the time wanted to sell it all off which of course did .Then of course the unions protescted the worker in any industrie in times of injury at work etc .
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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle View Post
    It does not matter who owns the car company as long as they are employing our people
    Sorry Finks, would you mind awfully if I were to disagree with you on this point?

    Whilst it is smashing that any investment into creating jobs within Blighty is welcome, the fact that it comes from a foreign source is somewhat sad. Whilst it can be clearly seen that someone somewhere can see a financial turn in this investment, the profits will leave the UK to distant shores. If a foreign company can see a turn, why can't a British firm? Is all this part of the "fairer society" scheme? Sending UK money to distant shores? Rather than a foreign company investing, if a UK company were to invest, money remaining within the UK would be spent on goods and services within the UK thus employing more British people in those industries and services which will then also make a profit and have money to spend within the UK and so on. And more people employed with the UK means that they pay tax - do you hear that governments? People paying tax. Thought that would get your attention.

    This was carried out within the USA under President Coolidge.

    And for GCHQs attention: Al Qaeda bomb jihaad explosion mass casualties Islam Ally akhbar Europe olympics. I await the knock on my door

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    Quote Originally Posted by flymo View Post
    Sorry Finks, would you mind awfully if I were to disagree with you on this point?

    Whilst it is smashing that any investment into creating jobs within Blighty is welcome, the fact that it comes from a foreign source is somewhat sad. Whilst it can be clearly seen that someone somewhere can see a financial turn in this investment, the profits will leave the UK to distant shores. If a foreign company can see a turn, why can't a British firm? Is all this part of the "fairer society" scheme? Sending UK money to distant shores? Rather than a foreign company investing, if a UK company were to invest, money remaining within the UK would be spent on goods and services within the UK thus employing more British people in those industries and services which will then also make a profit and have money to spend within the UK and so on. And more people employed with the UK means that they pay tax - do you hear that governments? People paying tax. Thought that would get your attention.

    This was carried out within the USA under President Coolidge.

    And for GCHQs attention: Al Qaeda bomb jihaad explosion mass casualties Islam Ally akhbar Europe olympics. I await the knock on my door
    There is no such thing as a 'British firm' anymore, any 'Britishness' is an illusion created by marketing, almost every company of any significance in the world is multi-national with shareholders (where the bulk of profits go) spread across the globe and branches in every significant area of operation because it makes sense to have local engagement. This whole discussion shows a real lack of understanding as to how and why businesses do the things they do in the ways that they do: Client, investor, contractor, workforce, customers plus governments, taxpayers and all the myriad of stakeholders have to realise benefits so that the economy can grow, I know it's a complicated web but constantly making business out to be nothing more than a simple exchange is pure Daily Wail.

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    Who says that the company has to be multi-national? Who says that the shareholders have to be foreign?

    Just asking.

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    Hi Flymo,

    because there is nothing to stop 'anyone' buying/obtaining shares in any worldwide PLC company. this in turn leads to investment fund/pension fund managers doing the same. no one is going to back a donkey therefore if a company is doing well this will create a worldwide demand for its shares

    certain countries might impose certain limitations on individuals which only means that 'I' for example would have to buy 'Apple' shares through a 'collective investment' as opposed direct from the NASDAQ

    it is not possible for a British firm for example launching/going public on the AIM/PLC markets and insisting that only British people can buy its shares.

    make sense?

    edited for poor explanatory skills - Doh!
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    Why does a British company have to be listed?

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