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Discuss Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army in Current Affairs on Navy Net; Originally Posted by finknottle If your people had been persecuted for over 2000 years one might tend to be heavy handed when threatened again, having said that the other lot are no better and until ...
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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle
    If your people had been persecuted for over 2000 years one might tend to be heavy handed when threatened again, having said that the other lot are no better and until they actually want peace there won't be any.

    I may have missed something, but didn't the Israelis turn up mob handed and univited in Jordan and grab a large chunk of a sovereign state and say Fuck you, you can't have it back?
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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Quote Originally Posted by History of Zionism and Modern Israel
    Jews had lived in "Eretz Yisrael (the land of Israel, called "Palestine" by the Romans and Greeks) since about 1200 B.C.E. The land of Israel was at a crossroads of the Middle East and the Mediterranean and was therefore conquered many times: by Egyptians, Hittites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Seleucid Greeks and Romans, as well as invading Philistines. Of these, only the Jews made the land into their national home.
    Who invaded who ?
    After so many Jews were SLAUGHTERED by Europeans in the first half of the Twentieth Century, is it any wonder AT ALL that they went BACK HOME?

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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle
    If your people had been persecuted for over 2000 years one might tend to be heavy handed when threatened again, having said that the other lot are no better and until they actually want peace there won't be any.

    I may have missed something, but didn't the Israelis turn up mob handed and univited in Jordan and grab a large chunk of a sovereign state and say * you, you can't have it back?
    People have short memories and even shorter attention spans. When my father was fighting the Nazis in Europe the Zionist terrorists were targeting British servicemen, their wives and their children in the Palestine Mandate. These Zionist terrorists also targetted native Palestinian Jews and their rabbis who objected to what the Zionists (who were mainly Khazars) were doing. I spent some time in Sinai and saw the behaviour of the IDF. The SS would have been proud of them.

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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Wayhay, its the Oil_Slick and Bergan Anti-Israel Show. How many more interesting facts can the dynamic duo Google?
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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle
    If your people had been persecuted for over 2000 years one might tend to be heavy handed when threatened again, having said that the other lot are no better and until they actually want peace there won't be any.

    I may have missed something, but didn't the Israelis turn up mob handed and univited in Jordan and grab a large chunk of a sovereign state and say * you, you can't have it back?
    People have short memories and even shorter attention spans. When my father was fighting the Nazis in Europe the Zionist terrorists were targeting British servicemen, their wives and their children in the Palestine Mandate. These Zionist terrorists also targetted native Palestinian Jews and their rabbis who objected to what the Zionists (who were mainly Khazars) were doing. I spent some time in Sinai and saw the behaviour of the IDF. The SS would have been proud of them.

    RM
    And as much as I hate to say it the Zionists were in discussions with Nazi Germany about plans to populate Palestine prior to 1939. A key figure in the negotiations was Adolf Eichmann, later kidnapped by Israeli intelligence, put on trial and hung. Interestingly he was all for the deportation of Jews from Germany and along with Haganah representatives met Heydrich and others in Berlin. He also met with Haj Amin Al-Husseini a Palestinian who liked to murder Jews and who helped raise the SS Moslem Division. Middle eastern politics couldn't be any dirtier if it tried

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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    I not saying it's right (or wrong) far from it, but aren't todays enemies nearly always yesterdays friends - you only have to look at Afghanistan and the 19070s/80s when the UK, US and Pakistan funded and trained the Muj, now nearly all the Commanders are the same people popping rounds off at our troops.

    Then you can talk about the Balkans or even closer to home and how we're dealing with a "respectable" Martin Mcguiness and Gerry Adams. beggars belief but was deemeda necessary evil by the policy makers.
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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryBosch
    Quote Originally Posted by Bergen
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    Quote Originally Posted by finknottle
    If your people had been persecuted for over 2000 years one might tend to be heavy handed when threatened again, having said that the other lot are no better and until they actually want peace there won't be any.

    I may have missed something, but didn't the Israelis turn up mob handed and univited in Jordan and grab a large chunk of a sovereign state and say * you, you can't have it back?
    People have short memories and even shorter attention spans. When my father was fighting the Nazis in Europe the Zionist terrorists were targeting British servicemen, their wives and their children in the Palestine Mandate. These Zionist terrorists also targetted native Palestinian Jews and their rabbis who objected to what the Zionists (who were mainly Khazars) were doing. I spent some time in Sinai and saw the behaviour of the IDF. The SS would have been proud of them.

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    And as much as I hate to say it the Zionists were in discussions with Nazi Germany about plans to populate Palestine prior to 1939. A key figure in the negotiations was Adolf Eichmann, later kidnapped by Israeli intelligence, put on trial and hung. Interestingly he was all for the deportation of Jews from Germany and along with Haganah representatives met Heydrich and others in Berlin. He also met with Haj Amin Al-Husseini a Palestinian who liked to murder Jews and who helped raise the SS Moslem Division. Middle eastern politics couldn't be any dirtier if it tried

    Indeed they were, Lehi contacted the Abwehr in 1940 to propose fighting the British in Palestine Lehi included such luminaries as Yitzhak Shamir who became Israels PM… nice people, nice track record of assassinations and massacres too…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)
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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Quote Originally Posted by wave_dodger
    Wayhay, its the Oil_Slick and Bergan Anti-Israel Show. How many more interesting facts can the dynamic duo Google?

    Well there's the issue of all those Egyptian POW's that went 'missing' after being captured by the IDF in the Sinai in 1967, bit embarrassing that.

    About the time they were being 'dissapeared' at El Arish a USN intel gathering ship, USS Liberty was passing up the coast and was duly attacked ferociously by the IDF for hours to cover up that little 'Aktion' killing 34 of her crew.
    “A bureaucrat is the most despicable of men, though he is needed as vultures are needed, but one hardly admires vultures, whom bureaucrats so strangely resemble. I have yet to meet a bureaucrat who was not petty, dull, almost witless, crafty or stupid, an oppressor or a thief, a holder of little authority in which he delights, as a boy delights in possessing a vicious dog. Who can trust such creatures?”

    Marcus Tullius Cicero

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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Quote Originally Posted by wave_dodger
    Wayhay, its the Oil_Slick and Bergan Anti-Israel Show. How many more interesting facts can the dynamic duo Google?
    If you were to extract your head from your arse then you might grasp the difference between Israelis and Zionists. It irks me just a tad when morons like your good self accept the atrocities perpetrated by the IDF and then attempt to trivialize the subject by inane posts.

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    Re: Our reign of terror, by the Israeli army

    Come on guys, lets not turn this into a slanging match
    We can't all get on all of the time, I'm a prime example of that!
    These forums are full of posts that have two or more people arguing on one subject and completely in tune on another!

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