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ukdaytona, they will ALWAYS get away with it. Always have covered up evidence and buried it in shite!!!!! I agree with you mate. Matty Hulls death by blue-on-blue contact proved it? How could they not when the video was shown on Sky News?? Anyway I am getting a little sick of Yank issues on this site??

Aussie Copied and concur!

Right lets get a few facts straight here please. The Yanks protect there armed forces .Not like ours where we get hung out to dry.Any court cases involving Brit forces in UK is all over the press.

The blue on blue has been done to death.Dont talk about a topic you have no clue about. Once again it was all over the press yet a few major facts were missing. Ref the 8 lads killed on the sea night well the yanks lost 4 guys as well. The 8 Brits killed came to my units BBQ 3 nights before the crash whilst we were sat in kuwait. Its one of those things that happen,its part and parcel of being IN the forces.

Please lets not all get on this ''Yank bashing'' trip. We have had a few trouble makers from the USA on this site of late. However most yanks are good as gold. They have saved many many UK lives lets not forget that.
Dont judge them until you have worked with them .

Deeps

Firstly I am sure every one respects your point of view, especially considering your own experience. I am sure most of the yank bashing is not aimed at them all, I would concur most of them are decent people just like us, some are mouthy, and some are downright obnoxious, but in general they are OK and I have had many good times with them both in uniform and out.

These incidents though do evoke anger from many because of the way they behave to us their closest allies, they prosecute those who abuse Iraqis yet cover up blue on blue incidents.

Having had a quick look at this one it is even worse in some respects as they seem to be pushing all the blame on a dead pilot to avoid any suggestion the 'system' was at fault, and one might suggest the coroner is actually trying to help the US aircrews families get closure and justice too, so not a pure yank bashing exercise.

Good post maxi .Like I have said the USA looks after its own .I wish I could say the same for ours.

Originally Posted by Deeps

Good post maxi .Like I have said the USA looks after its own .I wish I could say the same for ours.

Sometimes it is not easy when you are up against the yanks, and is blaming the pilot instead of admitting a system foul up really defending your own, a lot of the time they are defending GWB and his mate first, if some of their servicement benefit that is a bonus.

I am open to correction but believe there are basic differences; in the U.S. the forces do their own post mortems, in the UK the death of any citizen no matter where is open to a Coroners Court, hence the lengthy process of determining the death of Princess Diana amongst others.
The failure of U.S. agencies to forward important information to the UK may be a victim of different processes; the U.S. historically being almost unable to understand the cutlture of other nations.
Nothwithstanding that it is a shabby way to treat a so called Ally, or so this entire 'dodgy' war has seemed to many brits from the word go.

Deeps,

Im not 'Yank bashing' so ok, maybe wrong title. What I am asking is, why when you have a number of families that have lost loved ones in enemy action can you have 2 conclusions and what appears to be the various Gov. dept blocking inquests yet again

The US DoD & UK MoD appear to claim 'human error' while the RM carried out an enquiry that found probably technical error

From these 2 conclusions, the families have no 'closure' and surely the information requested by the coroner would of helped to offer the families some much needed answers.