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**K1ll1ckbunt1ng** · 15-08-10, 15:59

Thank you for your quick response. I entirely agree with the letter now I've read it.
The LibDems believe that there is an alternative cheaper than Trident. If so, I don't know what it is. The alternative that was being persued was killed of by Labour over 40 years ago. This was Blue Streak. It wasn't a credible deterrent as it took an hour to fuel it with oxygen immediately prior to launch.

**geoffrey** · 12-10-10, 13:12

I hear rumours that the UKNDA is about to cease operating. What with the SDSR about to report, is this timing deliberate? Has anyone else heard this?

**Scouse_Castaway** · 12-10-10, 13:59

Sounds like you might have a theory.............

**Hermes_R12** · 12-10-10, 14:07

Not responding to emails........

**Scouse_Castaway** · 12-10-10, 15:33

Hmm, so the 'group' has gone totally silent, rumors of it closing up shop prior to the SDSR. Wonder what its all about. Damn it Geoffrey, you have got me seeing conspiracy theories everywhere :P

**seafarer1939** · 15-01-11, 09:52

I have long been of the opinion that we need a sort of Italian Carabineri/Gendarme type of force with a Barracks in most big towns and staffed by retired or demobbed/service personnel or perhaps others trained up.
It annoys me intensely when I see hundreds of police escorting marchers or breaking up demo's. whilst crime is rampant.
Get the police to solve and stop crimes,let another type of force control these type of incidents.
It will employ Ghurka's,and servicemen who need a new start and will keep order.
Plenty of buildings in London,Manchester etc that can be used as barracks,and before someone mentions the Black and Tans!it won't be like that!
All it needs is the will to start it up and we will control these marchers and demos[in a firm but fair way]
This is contentious I know but do we really need police in force at football matches,marches and the like whilst some old lady is burgled a street away ?
It may be a step to far for some but the French,Italians and the Yanks with their National Guard seem to manage and even use them for flood relief.
It's an idea I've had for years but it won't fly in this country,to many Liberal wimps around including the cigar smoking,hush puppy,jazz loving wanker that is Clark who wants to close prisons.
Still he's safe with his bodyguard.
I didn't vote to remove one set of tossers only to get the same set of tossers back again.

**Hermes_R12** · 15-01-11, 10:06

Unless i'm really missing something I cant really see the point in yet another bureaucratic organisation that has wishy washy aims and objectives that will never really be achieved.

**seafarer1939** · 15-01-11, 12:24

Well Hermes if you are missing the point, all the other nations I mentioned are missing the same point but I don't think so.
Who do we have to cover the grave emergencies that the Yank National Guard cover ie Katrina? we don't, lets not forget it was mainly the Italian Carabeneri that smashed the Mafia in Sicily,not the Police.
It's an open question,do we use another home force to free up police to fight and stop crime or do we want the police escorting marchers and policing football matches?
Most would agree that police should be on the streets not escorting the numerous marchers who use any excuse to attack the police as the last uni.protests show.
It's a fair question and I back the creation of a home Force in town barracks used to take the pressure off the police.
some don't agree but that's my view.

**Naval_Gazer** · 15-01-11, 16:10

Before we go any further into proposed paramiltary organisations, please see what the NDA and BAFF actually are. The first tries to promote Britain's national defence interests while the second strives to protect the individual and collective interests of UK armed forces personnel. I must confess that I am a member of neither but I hold no strong views either way about their merits.