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Discuss Bandsmen Wearing Commando Beret in The Corps on Navy Net; Dear Royals,over on Arrse there is a thread which is causing confusion and debate to your pongo brethren. Can you clarify why a bandsman would be on the All Arms Commando Course? Is it the ...
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    Dear Royals,over on Arrse there is a thread which is causing confusion and debate to your pongo brethren. Can you clarify why a bandsman would be on the All Arms Commando Course? Is it the case that for promotion in the band service you need to do the commando course?http://www.arrse.co.uk/intelligence-...een.htmlCheers
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    You beat me over.

    Plus:

    Did the band wear green lids prior to the Deal bombing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbaldy View Post
    You beat me over.

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    Did the band wear green lids prior to the Deal bombing?
    Due to the time scale of your query (87-08 is my time scale), I have popped the question to the old and bold on another means, I'll get back to you with the answer as soon as they get back to me.


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    The band used to wear the green beret up until around 1991-2.

    There is no reason for someone n the Band to complete the AACC, and whoever that was who posted in ARRSE that to get to Sgt in the RM Band is having a farkin great laugh, what a load of bollox!!! No one in the RMBS has attempted or completed the AACC in the last 30 years, there is no need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRM_RN View Post
    The band used to wear the green beret up until around 1991-2.

    There is no reason for someone n the Band to complete the AACC, and whoever that was who posted in ARRSE that to get to Sgt in the RM Band is having a farkin great laugh, what a load of bollox!!! No one in the RMBS has attempted or completed the AACC in the last 30 years, there is no need.
    If a bandy did pass it. Plenty of other people do it without a real need to so its not that unrealistic that someone could one day get on a course. What shoulder flash would they wear on combats seen as everyone wears *insert arm* commando flashes now. Would they be able to wear Royal Marine commando one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRM_RN View Post
    The band used to wear the green beret up until around 1991-2.

    There is no reason for someone n the Band to complete the AACC, and whoever that was who posted in ARRSE that to get to Sgt in the RM Band is having a farkin great laugh, what a load of bollox!!! No one in the RMBS has attempted or completed the AACC in the last 30 years, there is no need.
    Jimbo, is it not the case then that ALL bandies used to have to do the commando course? Reason I ask is that I had a cousin who joined (probably 85) and I swear he told me that this was the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiddlyoggy View Post
    Jimbo, is it not the case then that ALL bandies used to have to do the commando course? Reason I ask is that I had a cousin who joined (probably 85) and I swear he told me that this was the case.
    No its not the case, however should they not cut the mustard (musically) apparently they can opt to go into mainstream Cdo training as a consolation.

    Maybe your cousin was a triangle biff, thus having to go for the second prize and covered it up by saying ALL the band have to do Commando training? Don't hold it against him the shame must have been horrendous for him.
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    I think I remember hearing (around 1990) that Buglers did Commando Course but Musicians did not. This was the reason that Buglers have a thin red line on their trousers and Musicians have a fat one. Probably got rid of this requirement around the same time they started to let females join maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danny View Post
    If a bandy did pass it. Plenty of other people do it without a real need to so its not that unrealistic that someone could one day get on a course. What shoulder flash would they wear on combats seen as everyone wears *insert arm* commando flashes now. Would they be able to wear Royal Marine commando one?
    I hear what you are saying in regard to other people doing te AACC but I really cannot see the day that the Band Manning Authority would let it happen and at the same time the justification for the operational need would be made.

    With regard to the flashes, this is an interesting one but I would imagine that they would retain the Band Service flashes with dagger sewn on sleeve as, after all, the green beret is the 'badge' of the Commando and they would still remain part of the Band Service. Plenty have requested to do the course in the past and all have been knocked back, from both sides.


    Quote Originally Posted by tiddlyoggy View Post
    Jimbo, is it not the case then that ALL bandies used to have to do the commando course? Reason I ask is that I had a cousin who joined (probably 85) and I swear he told me that this was the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tentoes View Post
    No its not the case, however should they not cut the mustard (musically) apparently they can opt to go into mainstream Cdo training as a consolation.

    Maybe your cousin was a triangle biff, thus having to go for the second prize and covered it up by saying ALL the band have to do Commando training? Don't hold it against him the shame must have been horrendous for him.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCommunicator View Post
    I think I remember hearing (around 1990) that Buglers did Commando Course but Musicians did not. This was the reason that Buglers have a thin red line on their trousers and Musicians have a fat one. Probably got rid of this requirement around the same time they started to let females join maybe?
    You are quite correct, the Buglers Branch is, in fact, the oldest branch in the Royal Marines. Buglers used to be part of the GD Corps and, as you rightly point out, still wear the thin red stripe on their trousers to this day. I think this changed around the early 1970s, there are still quite a few old and bold former buglers knocking about who have the green beret, a mucker of mine's father is one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJRM_RN View Post

    With regard to the flashes, this is an interesting one but I would imagine that they would retain the Band Service flashes with dagger sewn on sleeve as, after all, the green beret is the 'badge' of the Commando and they would still remain part of the Band Service. Plenty have requested to do the course in the past and all have been knocked back, from both sides.
    Is the dagger even a recognised badge any more? The red one im talking about I mean booties and RN cdos dont wear it. Seems to be limited to just pongos now, and last year on H14 the brigade banned it going just with the flashes instead.

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