submarine shifts?

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  1. hi im not in the navy yet.. but if accepted i will likely be a submariner - i have a query about the 6 on 6 off shift rotation.. does this literally mean that for every 24 hours you work 12 and never have a period of more than 6 hours rest?

    how is is possible to function without 8 hours sleep ? is this a normal concern?

    ive also read that some shift patterns are organised into 18 hour days with 6 working and 12 to rest and play?

    if someone can tell me what really goes on id be grateful - thanks
     
  2. 6 on 6 off, best watches in the world. This way you never have more than 6 hours to wait and you can be back in your rack if you want.
    It means with washing and eating you can have 10 hours rack time.
     
  3. There speaks a true WE before he even joins up.
     
  4. If you were to become a MESM (unlikely by the sound of it) you would, as a 1 in 3 watchkeeper Aft, get 8 hours off watch every 3rd night. However by the time you have had your (1 in 3) shower and watched a movie you will have about 6 hours left before pre-forenoon watch breakfast. Watchkeeping is the norm for all submariners, if you don't fancy it then try another career.
     
  5. Having been both a back aftie and a fwd watchkeeper both systems have their good and bad points.

    Once you get into it, 6 on 6 off is fine. As has been said you can get 10 hours in your rack per day, just in 5 hour stints. You'll even get spat out once or twice.
     
  6. Propulsion dept watches at sea:
    0300-0700 Morning
    0700-1000 First Forenoon
    1000-1300 Second Forenoon
    1300-1600 Afternoon
    1600-1900 Dogs
    1900-2300 First
    2300-0300 Middle
    First Forenoon watchkeepers are usually required to 'turn to' (work) for an hour or two during the Second Forenoon.
    Most watchkeeping positions have three watchkeepers at sea, and do one watch on, two off; some normally have four, and most will at some point (due to trainees becoming qualified whilst at sea) have periods where they are one-in-four.
     
  7. As a newbie to this forum this may seem like a bit of a daft question... but why don't they do 4 hours on, 8 hours off?? Or are there not 3 watchkeepers?
     
  8. Meal times are 0700. 1300. and 1900. plus one oclockers and tea and stickies at 1600
     
  9. As has been stated there 3 watchkeepers per position back aft in the engine room ( Chief of the watch and engineer Officer of the Watch have 4 each) so do keep 1 in 3 watches. Fwd work 1 in 2 watches (ie 6 hours on, 6 off) and all watches (fwd and aft) are arranged so the watches change over at meal times. The reason back aft don't work straight 4 on, 8 off is so that you don't do the same watches all the times. Different evolutions are carried out in each watch such as daily safety checks so everyone gets to do them. On boats the forenoon watch is split into 1st and 2nd forenoon, in the surface fleet the dogs are split into 1st and last dog watches to enable this to happen.
     
  10. Suck it up buttercup :p I guess you're in the same boat as me, waiting patiently for a start date?
     
  11. I always thought a shift was knicks and vest.
     
  12. Thanks for explaining why it's not a straight 4 on/8 off system! I just passed my RT for warfare officer (sm) today :) - first hurdle out the way!
     
  13. Forenoon, First, Afternoon, Middle, Dogs, Morning, Long Off......those were the days....
     
  14. I have just read the original question and some of the subsequent answers.
    Yea gods where do you people come from.
    0700 - 1000 first forenoon??!!
    What kinda bloody Navy is that?
    8 hours in yer rack yea right!!
    Oh no, now I seem to remember certain members of the Black Aftie brigade on the Revenge used to manage some strange watchkeeping method where by they used to get a weekend at sea!
    Hey ho enjoy it while it lasts cos sooner or later some pratt will change it.
     
  15. Long off gave you 22+ hours rack time, if you wanted. A 1 in 3 system, but with 4 in the watchkeeping union (those were the days). Weekends at sea? .... must have been "the other crew".
     
  16. That's always been the routine since I joined boats (1977) but was an SSN routine AFAIK. I believe the weekend off at sea (feck that, how boring) was purely a bomber routine, west country watchkeeping seemed to be the name if memeory serves though it had knack all to do with Guzz.
     
  17. In the good old pre "Six on - Six off" days:

    Hit a peak towards the end of one snea....ermm....'Patrol' when the After Planesman's Union had expanded from 3 or 4 to Twelve!! (riders, part threes qualifying, a couple of JRs rated up to PO all swelled the pool) That happy time didn't last for more than a few days though.

    On another 'Patrol' someone brought a nasty flu virus aboard which spread like wildfire so it was one in two for a couple of weeks - by the end of it I was really looking forward to my turn racked up with that Flu Bug but it cunningly passed me by.....
     
  18. I remember BOOTWU on Otter leaving Tangier most of the after planesman union, which I was a member, had stomach cramps and could only spend ten minutes on watch before doubling up in pain followed by a 'one trap dash'. Failure to make a trap meant there was a pile of slime on the control room floor. So for a week we were in some strange watching system where by you and your relieve kept watches so your relieve could do just that relieve you should your stomach need to issue forth!!!
    I used to relieve Nick Bright many a time there was a scream from the after planes and Nick was gone heading aft at mach one left hand up his arris whilst bent double and jhis right hand clutching his stomach.
     
  19. They'd probably left them all offboard, full of Hobart bits.
     
  20. Mabe all of the Buckets were full of Dollygee's dhobeying?

     

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