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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:27 pm

It has always depended on the publican and their attitudes. When I was in the ROC in the 80s our local forbade us to use the pub in uniform because we represented, in the landlord's opinion "warmongers" so we took our custom elsewhere. It was his loss!

In this case it is more reprehensible becuase of the circumstances, but is sadly legal as a landlord is entitled to refuse entry to whoever he or she chooses. A boycott of ALL the chains pubs by Service personnel and their friends and families, and the publicity, might make Head Office rethink it approach to the wearing of uniforms however. As the Christians have shown with BA - the best way to make businesses responsive is to loudly protest, ensure the chain gets lots of bad publicity for bigotry - and lose custom.

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:54 pm

We all know what these little people are like with their petty minded rules and a room temperature I.Q. to match, I know that not a single one of them would ever measure up to any of those men in uniform who gathered to send off their mate.

Wounded in the same incident that killed his oppo a comrade drags himself from his sick bed into his blues, face plastered, jaw wired up, tube in his nose to help him feed, (visibly in pain) so that he can do the right thing, the honourable thing, just that one image of courage will show that the "little people" will always be just that, tiny and insignificant, never coming close to matching the stature of a man like this.

The bar probably doesent give a toss (it has it's "one size fits all" petty rule book in place with moronic individuals to enforce them) Royal took his custom to a place that was happy to have him, nothing stops a man in blues gathering with his oppo's to say goodbye.

Duty, courage, pride, dignity? "little people" would't know the meaning of any of them.

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:15 pm

as knowing the doormen from around all the bars in concert sq if they feel thretened they dont let ppl in well mood, the office, lloyds dont anyway. but bar suede and modo do.


its disgracefull, no respect to any uniform.
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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:54 pm

DingDong:
* wankers. Portsmouth has an Outback bar that needs to be boycotted,...

You don't mean the one in Southsea, behind Barclays? Though I haven't been there for a while, it always used to be quite pro-Navy and used to have at least one ship's crest behind the bar.

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:49 am

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Well in Guz there's Kularoos (?sp) across the road from Walkabout, with a sign at the door welcoming all members of HM Armed Forces and waiving the door charge for them. Always preferred it to Walkabout anyway...

Nice to see that some things haven't changed since the 60/70s. La Dolce Vita night club in Newcastle upon Tyne had a similar policy. Servicemen in uniform had free admittance. Mind Newcastle was always a good run

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:39 am

This is because local muslims might be offended by the sight of a fighting machine in uniform and go running to the race relations board Twisted Evil

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:38 am

It's their loss, but like as been said, probably don't give a toss!!
Never come across a place before that have refused entry because of rig.
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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:58 am

HARRY_MASKERS:
We all know what these little people are like with their petty minded rules and a room temperature I.Q. to match, I know that not a single one of them would ever measure up to any of those men in uniform who gathered to send off their mate.

Wounded in the same incident that killed his oppo a comrade drags himself from his sick bed into his blues, face plastered, jaw wired up, tube in his nose to help him feed, (visibly in pain) so that he can do the right thing, the honourable thing, just that one image of courage will show that the "little people" will always be just that, tiny and insignificant, never coming close to matching the stature of a man like this.

The bar probably doesent give a toss (it has it's "one size fits all" petty rule book in place with moronic individuals to enforce them) Royal took his custom to a place that was happy to have him, nothing stops a man in blues gathering with his oppo's to say goodbye.

Duty, courage, pride, dignity? "little people" would't know the meaning of any of them.

Safe haven Cpl Nowak R.M.


Well said Harry.. I couldn't have said it any better..
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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:12 pm

Have sent them a shittogram. Wankers.
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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:03 pm

Always_a_Civvy:
It has always depended on the publican and their attitudes. When I was in the ROC in the 80s our local forbade us to use the pub in uniform because we represented, in the landlord's opinion "warmongers" so we took our custom elsewhere. It was his loss!

In this case it is more reprehensible becuase of the circumstances, but is sadly legal as a landlord is entitled to refuse entry to whoever he or she chooses. A boycott of ALL the chains pubs by Service personnel and their friends and families, and the publicity, might make Head Office rethink it approach to the wearing of uniforms however. As the Christians have shown with BA - the best way to make businesses responsive is to loudly protest, ensure the chain gets lots of bad publicity for bigotry - and lose custom.

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The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”

A pattern? you bet there is and guess what? it will never change because there will always be cowards that sit in comfey armchairs watching war on tv and not have to fight along side real men on the field of battle or to stand in full Blues whilst laying their mates to rest in boxes draped in union flags.

"Shame", they could'nt even spell the word. When their children and wives ask them what they did they can proudly say that they turned away real men just as society has done since Mr Kipling wrote the above, they won't feel anything because they are no better than every publican throughout history that has barred his doors to the "red-coats"

Not only was Mr Kipling a maker of exceedingly good cakes he was a pretty good judge of society and bigotry, very little has changed, my guess is it never will.

But I too cannot restrain myself from voicing my feelings for those that would treat our men in such a way, miserable slimy moronic wankers.

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:13 pm

Just Got this response from Walkabout in an open e-mail:

Thank you for your recent correspondence concerning the incident that took
place at Walkabout Liverpool last week. We have received a large number of
emails on this matter and we will be reviewing them in the days that
follow.

In order to provide you with a speedy response to your email, we sincerely
hope that you will accept this “open email” as an explanation of the
specific circumstances surrounding the recent incident in Liverpool and
clarification of the company’s policy towards uniformed service personnel.

The Licensing Act of 2003 places clear responsibility upon all of our venue
teams to ensure that all of our customers can enjoy a safe experience. The
careful screening of customers at the door entry point is critical to
achieving this objective. Nevertheless, Walkabout does not have a
nationwide policy concerning the admittance of uniformed service personnel.
On any given night and at any given venue our door team, in consultation
with the general manager on duty, is asked to make a judgment on safety
grounds as to whether it is appropriate or not to admit any customer.

On the night in question, our door staff took the decision to refuse entry
to the group in light of specific incidents that had taken place in the
city that evening. Regrettably, in our experience, some members of the
public do not always respond favourably to service personnel drinking
whilst in uniform. To help put this recent incident into context, in the
past six months the Liverpool Walkabout has had three incidents where the
safety of both uniformed service personnel and other customers was
compromised. Additionally, in October 2005 a serviceman (in civilian
clothing) was involved in an incident which sadly resulted in his death.

We deeply regret that this incident has caused considerable upset to you,
Cpl Nowak’s family, friends, comrades and all British servicemen. We are
extremely respectful of the work carried out by our service personnel at
home and overseas.

We sincerely hope that you appreciate our position given this particular
set of events and our clarification that we do not have a nationwide policy
concerning the admittance of uniformed service personnel.

For and on behalf of
Regent Inns Plc

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:25 pm

Got a copy of that too; good piece of waffle from them!
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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:31 pm

Seems to me that they are covering their arses very well!!
And if "some members of the public do not always respond favourably to service personnel drinking whilst in uniform", then refuse them entry!
But that would never happen i guess.
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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:33 pm

It doesnt say why they were invited back but not in uniformand completely agree with you stripey G.

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Re: Bar in Liverpool Bars Royal Marines who attended funeral

Post Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:43 pm

Having said that, I have attended many uniformed civic functions around the country which resulted in everyone continuing ashore on completion, and whether you like it or not you do attract some unnecessary attention (unless then they're female, and they can touch my collar as often as they like!) Laughing
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