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It's a generation thing IMO, my old man said I had it easy when I joined up, I said the same to my son when he joined up and when I told him the standards at Raleigh when I joined there as Ships Company he said they had it easy compared to him....and so it goes on and on and on......
If that's true my great grandkids will just turn up to Raleigh, get their kit and pass out in the same day.
Not exactly (it may well be true!) but I think what Wrecker is saying that past generations perception is flawed and always assumes they had the toughest deal/time; he is not saying it is actually true.
Sorry if it wasn't obvious but I was actually joking. Apparently my dad grew up in the ice age listening to his version of when he was young. I am surprised he didn't get mauled by a sabertooth on his way to milk the cow so he could eat his cereal with milk in the morning.
I too was joking.
I'd hoped it was a bit more obvious.
Subtlety obviously escapes you lot.
Although why 6 weeks at the G spot is something to write home about escapes me.
After all, it's not 12 months, is it?
Never bragged about Ganges (where does this G spot sh1t come from) but I'm glad your maths is up to speed
NAMET 0 0, mate.
You make it sound so humourless.
You make it sound so humourless.
Nah, I just dont go in for all this bash the youngsters lark! in my time I ribbed and told many a young matlot how easy they had it, but really their training had just changed a little and had a bit less bullshit than mine!
I admire the old timers before me and have a respect for the young matlots of today, especially considering the state of the country and the poor state of modern kids with their total lack of morality, moral fibre and sense of personal responsibility, the kids serving today really do well, the mob has always reflected the society it drews from and in todays broken britain, society is really quite shit! so its all the more impressive that the youngsters aquit themselves so well.
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Re: Intake standards
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:53 pm
My older brother once said to me you must be fcuking thick it took Raleigh 6 weeks to teach what Ganges took 9 months to achieve, so true, fcuking hated the place best target ever invented for a RN Tomahawk strike
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Re: Intake standards
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:25 pm
WreckerL:
Streaky:
Merlin28:
Comm.:
Merlin28:
WreckerL:
It's a generation thing IMO, my old man said I had it easy when I joined up, I said the same to my son when he joined up and when I told him the standards at Raleigh when I joined there as Ships Company he said they had it easy compared to him....and so it goes on and on and on......
If that's true my great grandkids will just turn up to Raleigh, get their kit and pass out in the same day.
Not exactly (it may well be true!) but I think what Wrecker is saying that past generations perception is flawed and always assumes they had the toughest deal/time; he is not saying it is actually true.
Sorry if it wasn't obvious but I was actually joking. Apparently my dad grew up in the ice age listening to his version of when he was young. I am surprised he didn't get mauled by a sabertooth on his way to milk the cow so he could eat his cereal with milk in the morning.
I too was joking.
I'd hoped it was a bit more obvious.
Subtlety obviously escapes you lot.
Although why 6 weeks at the G spot is something to write home about escapes me.
After all, it's not 12 months, is it?
Never bragged about Ganges (where does this G spot sh1t come from) but I'm glad your maths is up to speed
NAMET 0 0, mate.

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Re: Intake standards
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:47 pm
jacktheknife:
Think I'll have to play devils advocate for the youngsters here! Are intake standards lower? No, I think they are DIFFERENT because we have a different navy but not lower!
In the navy of the 60s,70s,80s and 90s, we went to Raleigh for six weeks, after 3 weeks we were let out to torpoint (in uniform until the 90s) where we swaggered about telling everyone we met that we were 'matlots' (as if the population of Torpoint had never seen a sailor) and thought we were the hardest old salts to ever join the mob. but what did we know, even after 6 weeks? how to hand wash, how to fold our uniform, how to iron, make a bed, clean our shoes, polish a floor, sew! as my dad (an old matlot who had gone through Raleigh in the fifties) pointed out, I'd only learnt to be a cracking good housewife and do the things my mum and granny did!, but that I knew sod all about ships, the 'real' navy or my chosen trade and that it would be many months and a lot of water under the keel before I did! and he was Right!
There are many on here who slag off the modern navy, but its a navy with over a decade of near continuous operational experience and there are 20 year olds in the mob today with more operational experience than many a 22 year matlot from the 60s and 70s. The fact is, the training is longer because the job is more technical than it was and more time is spent on training them for operational roles, maybe this does show up in their dress and turnout which may not be quite as tidly as with previous generations but their conduct around the world has mostly been exemplary. I think in all they deserve to be cut a little slack, after all, as my dad said on my passout, 'Navy, more like a boys prep schooll' but I dont think we did that bad!.
In the navy of the 60s,70s,80s and 90s, we went to Raleigh for six weeks, after 3 weeks we were let out to torpoint (in uniform until the 90s) where we swaggered about telling everyone we met that we were 'matlots' (as if the population of Torpoint had never seen a sailor) and thought we were the hardest old salts to ever join the mob. but what did we know, even after 6 weeks? how to hand wash, how to fold our uniform, how to iron, make a bed, clean our shoes, polish a floor, sew! as my dad (an old matlot who had gone through Raleigh in the fifties) pointed out, I'd only learnt to be a cracking good housewife and do the things my mum and granny did!, but that I knew sod all about ships, the 'real' navy or my chosen trade and that it would be many months and a lot of water under the keel before I did! and he was Right!
There are many on here who slag off the modern navy, but its a navy with over a decade of near continuous operational experience and there are 20 year olds in the mob today with more operational experience than many a 22 year matlot from the 60s and 70s. The fact is, the training is longer because the job is more technical than it was and more time is spent on training them for operational roles, maybe this does show up in their dress and turnout which may not be quite as tidly as with previous generations but their conduct around the world has mostly been exemplary. I think in all they deserve to be cut a little slack, after all, as my dad said on my passout, 'Navy, more like a boys prep schooll' but I dont think we did that bad!.
You make it sound so humourless.

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Re: Intake standards
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:14 pm
Streaky:
jacktheknife:
Think I'll have to play devils advocate for the youngsters here! Are intake standards lower? No, I think they are DIFFERENT because we have a different navy but not lower!
In the navy of the 60s,70s,80s and 90s, we went to Raleigh for six weeks, after 3 weeks we were let out to torpoint (in uniform until the 90s) where we swaggered about telling everyone we met that we were 'matlots' (as if the population of Torpoint had never seen a sailor) and thought we were the hardest old salts to ever join the mob. but what did we know, even after 6 weeks? how to hand wash, how to fold our uniform, how to iron, make a bed, clean our shoes, polish a floor, sew! as my dad (an old matlot who had gone through Raleigh in the fifties) pointed out, I'd only learnt to be a cracking good housewife and do the things my mum and granny did!, but that I knew sod all about ships, the 'real' navy or my chosen trade and that it would be many months and a lot of water under the keel before I did! and he was Right!
There are many on here who slag off the modern navy, but its a navy with over a decade of near continuous operational experience and there are 20 year olds in the mob today with more operational experience than many a 22 year matlot from the 60s and 70s. The fact is, the training is longer because the job is more technical than it was and more time is spent on training them for operational roles, maybe this does show up in their dress and turnout which may not be quite as tidly as with previous generations but their conduct around the world has mostly been exemplary. I think in all they deserve to be cut a little slack, after all, as my dad said on my passout, 'Navy, more like a boys prep schooll' but I dont think we did that bad!.
In the navy of the 60s,70s,80s and 90s, we went to Raleigh for six weeks, after 3 weeks we were let out to torpoint (in uniform until the 90s) where we swaggered about telling everyone we met that we were 'matlots' (as if the population of Torpoint had never seen a sailor) and thought we were the hardest old salts to ever join the mob. but what did we know, even after 6 weeks? how to hand wash, how to fold our uniform, how to iron, make a bed, clean our shoes, polish a floor, sew! as my dad (an old matlot who had gone through Raleigh in the fifties) pointed out, I'd only learnt to be a cracking good housewife and do the things my mum and granny did!, but that I knew sod all about ships, the 'real' navy or my chosen trade and that it would be many months and a lot of water under the keel before I did! and he was Right!
There are many on here who slag off the modern navy, but its a navy with over a decade of near continuous operational experience and there are 20 year olds in the mob today with more operational experience than many a 22 year matlot from the 60s and 70s. The fact is, the training is longer because the job is more technical than it was and more time is spent on training them for operational roles, maybe this does show up in their dress and turnout which may not be quite as tidly as with previous generations but their conduct around the world has mostly been exemplary. I think in all they deserve to be cut a little slack, after all, as my dad said on my passout, 'Navy, more like a boys prep schooll' but I dont think we did that bad!.
You make it sound so humourless.
Nah, I just dont go in for all this bash the youngsters lark! in my time I ribbed and told many a young matlot how easy they had it, but really their training had just changed a little and had a bit less bullshit than mine!
I admire the old timers before me and have a respect for the young matlots of today, especially considering the state of the country and the poor state of modern kids with their total lack of morality, moral fibre and sense of personal responsibility, the kids serving today really do well, the mob has always reflected the society it drews from and in todays broken britain, society is really quite shit! so its all the more impressive that the youngsters aquit themselves so well.

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