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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:18 pm

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Its just another cynical way to collect more taxes

And employ more in the public sector to administer it.
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:21 am

Its been said already --but any legislation and rules imposed on dog owners will just be another burden and possibly more jobs for the
people who are supposed to enforce the rules.


It won't stop dogs biting ----simply because dogs trained untrained or
mutts sometimes feel threatened --and they will defend themselves.

Only sure way is to muzzle all dogs --and that won't happen its too simple .

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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:29 am

The current dangerous dog legislation is largely ignored by the police 'service'. I suspect that any enforcement of the planned legislation will focus on soft targets such as OAPs and their shi tzus. Muscular louts and their aggressive, abused dogs will continue to flout the law.

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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:28 am

Most of the dogs I see in Worthing of a friday night need a licence. In fact I reckon most of them are not up to date with their injections either Rolling Eyes
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:08 am

It is interesting that Scotland is in the process of changing the laws relating to dogs and this is focused on giving more power to dog wardens in placing legal obligations on owners to behave responsibly. They think the insurance idea is stupid. Mind you the SNP think NuLabor is stupid.
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:42 am

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It is interesting that Scotland is in the process of changing the laws relating to dogs and this is focused on giving more power to dog wardens in placing legal obligations on owners to behave responsibly. They think the insurance idea is stupid. Mind you the SNP think NuLabor is stupid.

They aint aso thick after all Razz
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:29 am

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Maxi_77:
It is interesting that Scotland is in the process of changing the laws relating to dogs and this is focused on giving more power to dog wardens in placing legal obligations on owners to behave responsibly. They think the insurance idea is stupid. Mind you the SNP think NuLabor is stupid.

They aint aso thick after all Razz

Wee Eck's 'No Daft' as they say, but then when you compare him against the like of Ian Gray, the Secretary of State for International Development's sister, Annabel Goldie and the Limpdem's Tavish Scott, perthaps is is easier to look good.
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:22 pm

Well looking at the number of scots in the cabinet it may be said that even though they are doing a wonderful job in Scotland …they arn`t doing quite so well down here…

The bottom line is the hospitals have reported that they are treating 100 cases a week of dog bites…mainly young children ….something has to be done...and quickly.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:46 pm

That dog related injuries statistic is, indeed, significant and undesirable. It’s precisely because of that sort of thing the present Government and its sundry parasites always feel obliged to be seen to be doing something.

As I see it, this proposed yet another new Law has good and bad points.

Good points;

Government is seen to be doing something

people unlucky enough to be chomped by a dog are likely to be compensated at no direct expense to the Government

people won’t own a dog unless they can afford the insurance

it stimulates the National Economy and adds to the Revenue finances.

the legal trade will have more opportunities to generate recoverable income.

Bad Points;

some people who own a dog might be unable to cover the insurance or any chip embedding.

enforcing compliance will be far from easy. This being particularly so from those at “the edge of Society” who won’t bother and won’t give a sod for the consequences

there will be many dogs “given up”, abandoned, confiscated or otherwise “disposed of” because the owner either won’t be bothered or can’t afford it. There will be a lot of dead dogs

If a biting dog becomes the paid for Insurer’s responsibility, the owner may feel less of a personal responsibility to maintain control

It will further our descent down the road of litigation and compensation for everything

On balance, I would like to see this bright idea quietly gashed.

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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:00 pm

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Well looking at the number of scots in the cabinet it may be said that even though they are doing a wonderful job in Scotland …they arn`t doing quite so well down here…

The bottom line is the hospitals have reported that they are treating 100 cases a week of dog bites…mainly young children ….something has to be done...and quickly.

..

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I didn't think that Gordon had invited the SNP to join the westminster government. Arent all those ministrers you complain about Labour numpties.

Introducing uniforcable insurance will not stop dog attacks, most of the people who own dogs that attack are unlikely to pay for the insurance any way.

This is yet another NuLabor con, new law which will actually do nothing offered to solve a real problem rather than actually doing something like giving councils power to deal with dangerous dog owners who are the real problem
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:01 pm

Very close to where I live the council have thoughfully provided a green area where people can exercise their dogs. The whole are is covered in dog shite because many people are not picking up and putting the crap in the bins provided. My thought are that all dogs with the exception of working dogs should be banned as it appears that many dog owners are totally irresponsible.
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:05 pm

UncleAlbert:
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UncleAlbert:
That’s a strange thing to say……it seems to me that the means that the government has in place to to ensure that cars are insured by ALL car owners and TV licences are purchased by all TV owners is very effective …and I cant see that this would be any different…..
Sooner the better…..

UA where do you buy your rose tinted glasses from - I must get a pair.

Road Tax Staveley Head are a leading commercial vehicle insurance broker and have discovered that last year there were 1.7 million motorists without up to date road tax (Link www.staveleyhead.co.uk...cleId=172)

Car Insurance Five per cent of motorists are estimated to be driving without insurance. With 35 million vehicles on the road in UK that is equal to 1.75 MILLION uninsured - 20% of 17-20 year old drivers are estimated to be driving without insurance! (Link www.mib.org.uk/NR/rdon...FINAL.pdf)

T[b]V Licence[/b] The average evasion across the UK is 5% (Link www.dailyrecord.co.uk/...21572556/)

Do you need any more statistics to show how INEFFECTIVE the current system is?


erm....5%.....overreacting a bit arn`t you.....

that means 95% have it....

Erm 5% of a small number - you might have a point but in real number terms ... do the sums! And remember, it SHOULD be a lot easier to keep tracks on people with cars or TV sets and a LOT more difficult to keep tabs on dog owners.
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:14 pm

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Very close to where I live the council have thoughfully provided a green area where people can exercise their dogs. The whole are is covered in dog shite because many people are not picking up and putting the crap in the bins provided. My thought are that all dogs with the exception of working dogs should be banned as it appears that many dog owners are totally irresponsible.

One of the few good things the plastic police in my area do is fine the arseholes who let their dogs shit everywhere.

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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:08 pm

This topic has dropped out of the news as suddenly as it appeared so one suspects the the Government have got wind of the generaly hostile reception of the idea.
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Re: All dogs could be insured under dangerous breeds plans

Post Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:37 pm

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This topic has dropped out of the news as suddenly as it appeared so one suspects the the Government have got wind of the generaly hostile reception of the idea.

Either that or they got good advice from the Chinese and have dropped the item from the menu.... Very Happy

No such thing as a "bad breed ", a fully trained beagle can kill you if you fall in front of it... Laughing

Scam by the Government, to increase revenue by way of fees...."Tax" by any other name... Wink
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